OTOH, in just about every word processor or text editor I've used, enter produces a return, so Revs behaviour is not without precedent. The question is whether Rev fields should behave like a spreadsheet or a word processor - of course, the answer depends on context, so I guess RunRev went with the WP option as default, but of course we can override it...

Mark

On 26 Mar 2006, at 03:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Richard,
I was not so much concerned with Return. It works as I'd expect. But it has always seemed strange that Enter should also produce a return in Rev. I go back before the Mac/Windows wars. The spreadsheets of the late 70s, early 80s, and since use the following convention:
TAB = close the current cell and open the one to the immediate right
RETURN = close the current cell and open the one immediately below
ENTER = close the current cell

The Return is of typewriter lineage (especially the electric typewriters of the 60s - before that the carriage return was done manually). Return is also a lower ASCII character for use with teletype machines.

Enter is from adding machines - where it initiates calculations from numbers entered.

There is definitely a difference between Return and Enter! Enter should not produce a carriage return. But, as you say, three lines of code set the world right. Mark Smith's suggestion fixed all of the problems I was having.
Paul Looney

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:21:45 -0800
Subject: Re: Enter vs Return

  Paul wrote:
> Everyone,
> Isn't the current behavior of Enter (doing a return) wrong?
> If I am the only one who thinks so, I'll work around it with Mark's > cure. Otherwise I'll bugzilla it (thought it had been entered in > Bugzilla already).

I don't believe the behavior's changed, and it's easy enough to have any other behavior you want.

But unfortunately if you want to ever support the other 90+% who use Windows, you will only confuse them if you have different behaviors for Enter and Return:

It seems everyone who designs PC keyboards are all under 25 years of age, having never seen nor heard of a typewriter, which would explain why they exhibit no understanding of the origin of the Return key on their keyboards:

<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/73566/ match=type
writer>


PS: Oddly enough, while I can find that post easily on GMane and Nabble, searching for "typewriter" in the Rev list archives comes up empty.

Not to RunRev: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add your own search on your archives. Outside services like Google have no obligation to index all of your content, and many searches with it produce incomplete results.

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 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Media Corporation
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