Hi Judy,
I was away for about a forthnight....
I believe this response to Chipp is a unfair.
The post you cite regarding Jerry was apologized for almost
immediately
after he realized that he sent it to the list and not to Jerry
personally.
And I seem to recall Jerry being nearly abusive in the posts sent
around
that time. I don't have the time at present to go google pipermail to
cite each and every post, but you might wish to do so to revisit
the issue
in its larger context.
Thanks for reminding me of this. I agree. I haven't been totally
fair. As you mention, Chipp email was published by error on the list.
My apologizes to Chipp.
The reason for this email was the following. Chipp accused me of
having a feud with runrev. The situation was rather that I didn't
want to come to have a feud against revolution (the non english
speaker I am has to use the web to know that a feud is defined as "A
bitter, often prolonged quarrel or state of enmity, especially such a
state of hostilities between two families or clans"). But I could see
the very many ways in which I was encouraged to end up developing one.
But these things are difficult to discuss of that in a context where
people are prone to erect their defense. I am afraid that this got me
fall in the trap myself and express things in ways that were not fair.
I never had a feud against runrev. Some persons have come to believe
that I had a feud because I have decided to express a few things so
to try to make persons aware of the fact that the situation had been,
over the last months, escalating in ways that were highly
undesirable, with bitter feuds that started to occur repeatedly
between persons I knew to be of high personal and professional
quality. In reality, I have the highest opinion of Kevin, Ken, Dan,
Chipp, Richard, Jacque and others... but yes, I have been made to
feel very uneasy about what they allowed themselves to express about
Richmond, Alain, Xavier, or, more recently, me. Things were said in a
register that is a very dangerous one. They are probably not aware of
that, they would probably find difficult to accept this is the case
as they had no intention to do anything of this nature, but the fact
is that some of what was said was uncomfortably close from what is
denounced as mobbing (http://www.mobbing-usa.com/): "Ganging up" by
co-workers, subordinates or superiors to force someone out of the
workplace through rumor, innuendo, intimidation, humiliation,
discrediting, and isolation. The psychologist I am had a chance to
learn, both out of professional and personal experience, how, as soon
as you authorize yourself to enter this register, things can rapidly
start to escalate out of control, with the development of feuds
between persons or clans who in other contexts would be seen as the
most supportive and honorable persons. Partly because the only way to
denounce what is happening is to attack persons in the same register,
innuendo, rumor, discrediting.
My understanding was that we had been in a "dangerous", highly
emotional, zone at least 3 times over the last 3-4 months and that
they would have continued to happen if this didn't get discussed in a
way that made people aware of the fact their words and actions had an
impact less innocent that they were ready to acknowledge.
That said, I had in the recent weeks very satisfactory interactions
with Lynn Fredericks, the new runrev executive. If I have a feud
against him, then I would gladly have feuds of this nature with any
of you. Similarly, the recent rewording of their license in 2.7.1
removes the reasons I had to explore other alternatives to avoid
potential problems with the development of my projects. At the same
time, the readings and explorations I had on java, ajax, ruby could
easily be put to good use to better serve the runrev community ;-).
After all, Szun Tzu said "If you know your enemy and yourself, you
will not be at risk in a hundred battles. If you know the enemy but
not yourself, you will sometimes win and sometimes lose. If you know
neither the enemy nor yourself, you will be at risk in every battle."
In all situations, our most dangerous enemy is ourself.
Marielle
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