Rodney Somerstein wrote:
Also, while Bob Ippolito has done what seems like a fairly nice job on
py2app, the standalone builder for Mac Python, he seems to hold a very
low regard for readable documentation. He wrote the tool for himself
and makes it available for the good of the community. But, people
should just know how to make it work as far as I can tell. He will
answer questions, but the answers usually assume that you have a
sufficiently deep knowledge of Python to understand them. The problem
seems to be that Mac Python is an all volunteer effort and no one has
volunteered to write comprehensive documentation tying Python and
py2app together so that a real newbie has a good chance of
understanding it all. It is understandable that no one has written the
same documentation for the Mac for wxPython and PythonCard as they
aren't Mac specific.
The best approach, as far as I can tell is to first of all learn
Python. You do this by first installing Python 2.4.3 from the build
available at http://www.python.org/download/mac/. This page is a basic
page describing how to get started and why to install Python rather
than using the one built into OS X. Then, use any decent book on
Python to learn the language itself.
Next, I would learn to use py2app. Unfortunately, the only good
resource that I know for learning this tool is to join the MacPython
SIG mailing list -
http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/pythonmac-sig. You will
get all the help you need there with a little asking.
Then, learn wxPython for developing GUI apps. You can probably do this
at the same time that you learn PythonCard. Again, join the PythonCard
mailing list and probably the wxPython mailing list for help.
If you happen to find a resource that shows you how to create a
standalone hello world app in Python on the Mac, please post about it
here. I've never seen such a thing but would love to find one.
Good advice - but I'd switch the order around a bit - use PythonCard to
learn how to program in Python, I find an easy to use GUI much more
friendly for learning. And I'd leave py2app until later.
PythonCard comes with a tool (standaloneBuilder) which does a good job
of easing the problems of building distributable executables for Windows
and Linux. The Beta version of it is much improved to offer a choice of
tools - and the next step after that will be to add py2app support. So
it's not there today - but there is light at the end of the tunnel for a
GUI front-end to building distributables even on Mac.
And the relevance of all this to the Rev list ? To remind us how much
there is to be grateful for in having the ease of use and ease of
distribution provided by RunRev. Rev ain't perfect - but it does have a
lot of advantages.
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