Richard,

I did ask Chipp for his thoughts on custom properties used by an IDE component. I got some good ideas for using them by listening to his objections!

I came up with an idea based on use of custom props for Galaxy Lite (which is coming along nicely) that will change the way I'm able to work on projects and deal with interruptions (a constant, it would seem). I've been testing it in Galaxy Lite and I really like it. Those who want to find out about it and play with it should come to RevConWest (http://www.revconwest.com/revcon/fontcolor=redRegisterNOW! font.htm)!!

The initial tests i did this weekend on using html caching, for instance are dramatically fast. That is one fast bit of binary. I'm in favor of using the features of the language for the user's benefit...IDE performance and feature-wise. And in letting the user know about them, of course. A commercial product is also for the people who buy it, no?

The Rev IDE caches the htmlText of the object you were editing and I know why. Doing this reduces the code they need to support dramatically and also works VERY fast. I'm curious why they don't compress them, if they're going to leave them in the work product, however. Compressed html of a script adds 16 to 20 percent to the object size. Not doing so can double the size.

That said, I do think the user should also have the ability either through the IDE component or through another tool to strip any unwanted custom properties. I think it's called "wax on; wax off."

Best,

Jerry Daniels


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On May 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Chipp Walters wrote:

> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> There are also at least three other IDEs in the works, and to
>> the best of my knowledge none of them alter custom properties.
>
> Constellation creates a custom property set. It's not as large
> as the one in Rev. I've talked with Jerry about either creating
> a 'clean stack' button, or adding the function into my altClean
> plugin.

Custom props are certainly useful, but more so if the user knows what's happening.

In the standalone builder I'm making it also uses a single custom property, but before it's added it notifies the user and asks permission, or lets the user save the metadata to a file. For all subsequent runs once the property has been added it no longer asks.

Not all circumstances allow such flexibility, but at least letting the use know is a step in the right direction (and of course refraining from all use of custom props where any alternative will work, such as colorizing on the fly rather than cashing a huge htmlText version of the script).

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 Richard Gaskin
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