My take is that Rev is not likely to be an easy, malleable environment in
which to create the kinds of things your obviously fertile mind is already
dreaming up, let alone the things that will spring forth from those already
rich ideas.
Just my opinion, of course, but I think you'd find more shoulders on which
to stand (i.e., components, objects, concepts, tools) over in Smalltalkland
than you will in RevWorld.
Wow! We couldn't differ more on this opinion, Dan. For someone who
doesn't want to do much programming, Smalltalk is probably not the
environment to go to. Environments such as Squeak will require him to
program pretty much everything. No nice graphical starting point the
way there is in Rev. And, it is REALLY unintuitive to anyone who
hasn't drunk the Smalltalk Cool Aid. Just figuring out what mouse
clicks do takes some work. Smalltalk is essentially an operating
system.
No I will give you the object oriented nature of things in the
Smalltalk world. That is really the one place that it really excels.
But when it comes to anything else other than object oriented
programming, which isn't his goal, I wouldn't steer anyone to
Smalltalk.
If some of the Smalltalk folks could create a nice environment that
makes it easy to target a variety of OS platforms, I might be
convinced otherwise. However, the only attempts that I've seen tend
to be very pricey and still result in Smalltalk-like, rather than
familiar, environments to work in.
The truth is, what this person wants to do will require programming.
Rev is probably the friendliest environment currently available to
get going with. In part, due to the the nice folks on this mailing
list. RealBASIC might give it a run for the money as it has some
pretty rabid, helpful users as well. Not as cross-platform or quite
as easy to use, but still another place to steer a developer
wanna-be. And he is a developer wanna-be. He just doesn't know it or
want to admit it yet. ;-)
-Rodney
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