Martin,
Thanks for the tip, I was not familiar with MAMPS, it's exactly the
same thing I am building, I am familiar with Locomotive <http://
locomotive.raaum.org/> which is the same thing but for Ruby On Rails.
Locomotive solves dynamic linking by using some clever plists that
are rewritten at runtime, I don't really understand how they do it.
But MAMPS solve the path problem in a very simple way. You simply
must put it on /Applications. That's so easy. All macs have a /
Applications, even if the system is localized, the /Applications will
be there, it's a no code solution, pure and clever hard code. It
solves everything. I'll follow the same suit for now. Damn, why
didn't I thought of it too.
Thanks for the tip.
Andre
On Aug 23, 2006, at 10:07 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
Andre Garzia wrote:
Hi Folks,
I am building my soon to be released web application development
thingy. I am bundling all my libraries (and some third party with
credits), docs and example.
But since I talked with Dan and others during RevConWest, I
decided that the most important part of this package is the out-of-
the-box experience. The hardest thing about CGI and WebApps for
rev users is usually setting up the environment. The idea is to
develop locally and then deploy when ready. I can't really build
this for Windows, I expect help on that later. So the idea is that
there's a home stack that sets everything up.
Till today I was bundling the LiteSpeed Web Server <http://
www.litespeedtech.com> server with the package. The server would
be all set up out of the box so that you could just launch and
play. The problem is, the thing is not running CGIs, the plain old
ones... they run once, then the server deadlocks. ARGH!!!! I
thought about using cherokee web server <http://www.0x50.org/> but
then, it comes out in source form and when it compiles it hard
code some paths for the dynamic loading libraries, so you cannot
really build it and then just bundle. You must compile it for each
installation. Thats the same trouble with Lighttp <http://
www.lighttpd.net/>, and building it with static options makes a
huge server like 158mb and still it hard code the paths.
The MacOS X Apache server is not ready for FastCGI, for that we
need to install the modules, which is easy. Actually thats not
hard, simple commands and a revolution made stack could drive that
installation easy. But again MacOS X out-of-the-box lacks the
needed C compiler for that, only those that installed XCode
development tools have the needed stuff to build Apache Modules.
So here I am. The little servers all have some trouble or another,
the MacOS X bundled one is fine, but again, you need to download
1GB XCode tools just to build simple couple megs apache module...
any clue out there folks? is there any autoconf magician here that
can build a lighttp install with relative paths instead of
absolute ones (I tried and it didn't like).
Can we use otool to rewrite the linkers absolute path using a
relative one like we do for frameworks (using @executable_path).
Argh, I am looking for help.
Andre
Andre, I'm not sure if this qualifies as help but it sounds to me
like you want to provide something similar to MAMP. It's a dev-
server package. I think it comes as a precompiled binary package.
System requirements are quoted as >= Panther, no mention of Xcode
tools having to be available or not. Installation is very easy. It
installs everything to its own folder (so it's easy to delete) runs
on port 8888 by default, can have its own web root if you want.
Existing Apache installs are unaffected.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mamp
http://www.mamp.info/
Probably you have seen it? Maybe it's irrelevant. But just maybe this
will give you some ideas?
Martin Baxter
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