Re: Call for Media Viewer Test: Windows Users Especially

Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:53:50 -0700

Disclaimer: I'm an novice at this SMIL stuff and don't know what i'm doing (smile) 

doing this: (watch out for email wraps)
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on openstack
put "http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage-w-slides.smil"; into tUrl 
 set the filename of player "Player1" to tUrl
send startPlayer1 to me in 2 seconds
end openstack

on startPlayer1
 start player player1
end startplayer1
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was literally causing revolution to crash on Windows machines...
I got one report from Australia and another from Texas.
You are welcome to check out that file... I've left if on the server, though it's no longer in use...the paths are all valid 

Andre say it may possibly be the use of  durations in the slide seq...

<par>
<audio src="http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/media/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage.mp3"/> 

                 <seq>
<img src="http://www.himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2006/June/June_17_2006/01-bd-6-17_DSCN2184.jpg"; region="slides" dur="00:01:10.280"/> <img src="http://www.himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2006/June/June_20_2006/01-bd-6-20_IMG_1644.jpg"; region="slides" dur="00:01:10.280"/> 

etc.

and he said he got better results but using "start" and "end" parameters.

it worked on "most" machines (my beta test group is only about 15 people)

anyway, I get better results with just doing this for now...
as i needed this thus up and functional by 9/1 and time for R  & D was over.

===========
global gConnectedToNet
local tNextSlide

on mouseUp
  testNetConnection
  if gConnectedToNet is not empty then
    stop player "player1"
set the filename of player "player1" to "http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/media/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage.mov"; statusMsg (" Publisher's Desk. Read it on page 10. Audio only, with slides of Satguru Bodhinatha Veylanswami") 
    set the label of this stack to "Publisher's Desk, October 2006"
    set the top of player "player1" to 4
    set the height of player "player1" to 18
    set the top of image "audioPoster" to 24
    show image "audioPoster"
     start player "player1"
     put 1 into tNextSlide
    send "postSlide(1)" to me
  else
    connectionNotification
  end if

end mouseUp


on postSlide
put the uSlides of me into tSlides # list list of absolute URL pointing to jpegs on the server 
  put url (line tNextSlide of tSlides) into image "audioPoster"
  put (tNextSlide +1) into tNextSlide
  if tNextSlide = the number of lines of tSlides then
    put url (line 1 of tSlides) into image "audioPoster"
    exit Postslide
  else
    send "postSlide" to me in 40 seconds
  end if
end postSlide

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OK, this works, but I'm not super happy with the architecture because the media package is now fragmented: We've got the audio file streaming into a player object and it's associated slide show is via a revolution image that is being updated from a separate script. I mean, it works great, I've used that update image object with remote URL's for years, it's solid (even from the Kiev in the Ukraine on 36 K modems!) and I would use this for many things as is where the entire context is some Rev app, game or eduTainment product.
But it means there is only a single viable delivery context. If you want to look to the future at a big library delivery system you would prefer to have a single URL that points to a singlecontainer that equals your show. Which might want to run from another frame work (web, real player, QT player) later in its life cycle.
And from a production flow angle (and that's the seat I sit in) it puts half the job on the desk of the rev scriptor and half the job on the desk desk of the media team. With SMIL, the Delivery Team (web-rev app building team) just asks the Media Team( sound, photoshop, video guys) "build it and give us a SMIL File" ( I may changes hats and do all that, but the point is the same...)
That's the beauty (and future promise, if we kick enough life back into it) of SMIL... 
but, if it breaks QT on Windows...  :-(

I would be very interested in your thoughts here.

And before i run of to look at the podcast formats.
Will the podcasts format run from inside a QT player?
I'm not aware that you can control screen regions and run
 multiple, concurrently playing streaming media from within via RSS 2.0...
I'm not sure what the productivity gains would be: we're cutting our teeth here on Final Cut Pro, Shake and that whole suite and just to put the whole thing together as a one movie is not that hard. 

but, we are into podcasts now
and since I'm already writing rev apps to build RSS 2.0 XML and rev CGI's and crons and stuff for podcasts, if i could do the slide show thing in RSS 2.0 that would be very sweet. 
I will look at that URL in a few days.

And, then the question becomes(as always!) is

Will it work on Windows? (In a Rev player object with QT?)

Sivakatirswami


David Bovill wrote:

I"ve been experimenting a bit with using SMIL for slide shows... what
do you mean by:

On 04/09/06, Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


1) don't use SMIL with multi-seq's with durations


Which sequences are OK - do you mean layout with multiple tracks - so
no sound track and slide?

Also my guess is that a better direction to look at is the use of
podcast formats: take a look at this:

 http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/PodcastChapterTool
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