No externals. I'm thinking that the principal problem may be coming from substacks continually opening and closing without their destroystack property set to true. There are 55 substacks in the main stack, including some fairly large ones. None of them were set to purge memory on closing. That's been changed now and we'll test performance to see if the instability is eliminated.

Thanks, again, for all the suggestions.
Richard


On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote:

Look at your app in the task manager and look at the Process Tab and Memory usage.

If that keeps going up and up as you use the program, you have a leak some place. It may fluctuate, as you go different stacks and cards. If you have a main menu screen, however, it should return to a constant value every time you return there. If you go into your program and back to the main screen and the number goes up each time you do that, you definitely have a memory leak someplace.

Another potential source of memory leaks is externals. Do you use any externals?

At 05:33 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote:
Well, I'm not that knowledgeable about Windows either... Looking at
the Task Manager and the Performance area, which numbers are the
critical ones to monitor? Is it the "available" memory, and if so,
when does that number get so low that it becomes a problem? Do I
watch CPU usage?... or is the "commit charge" info a critical variable?

Thanks.
Richard


On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:23 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

It might not be *your* program that's having problems. :-(

I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to Windows, but leaving
the Task Manager open so that you can see what resources different
apps are using would probably be a good start. Then leave it all
running and wait until there are problems. Don't you just love
intermittent bugs?

Ian

P.S. A notorious example of memory leaks on OS X is Safari - if you
leave your computer up for long periods of time Safari can easily
hit more than a GB of RAM after being open for a few days, even
after you close most of the tabs and windows...

On 14 Sep 2006, at 10:39, Richard Miller wrote:

Ian,

This sounds like a possible culprit for the problem in our
application. Is there a way to find out what is causing this or to
verify it is occurring? Any code that can be written in? Any
specific places in the code to look for it?

Again, what we are experiencing is the program bogging down or
simply freezing up at various points throughout a day, but never
at the same place. This is in runtime mode only.... not in the
development environment. No programming bugs show up there.

Thanks.
Richard



On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:27 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

Memory leaks are where a program grabs memory when needed, but
doesn't release all of it afterwards. If the machine is up for a
long time, even a minor memory leak can tie up all available RAM,
bogging down the whole machine.

Ian

On 14 Sep 2006, at 10:23, Richard Miller wrote:

Peter,

Can you explain what you mean by a memory leak and how that
effects stability?

Thanks.
Richard

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