True, I am thinking more of a specialized situation in which the user kind of *expects* to download something. (I am fortunate to have a "captive audience", that will use whatever I tell them to :-)

A download takes time... but in some cases, to the user, it represents:

- added value (not just another browser app... this is REAL software! :-)
 - added security (immune to Explorer bugs)
- faster performance (browser page reloads.... arrgh! Once you've had the experience of click click, instant screen changes, you do NOT want to go back!)


For those two people on this list who haven't read this:

http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/netapps.html

run, don't walk!


The good news is, if you've worked out all the logic and UI layouts in Rev, and the client's signed off, but decides the app has to be browser-based, it's faster to write it in Rails/Symfony/CakePHP/ whatever than starting from scratch!


But I do agree that frameworks and IDEs for AJAX-type web apps and Flash all suck, which is weird.

:P


On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

Unfortunately I've been unable to convince anyone to use a custom browser either (that is, a Rev standalone with altBrowser embedded), for the same reason - people want to use *their* browser, and not download anything, just
click links.

These are non-sensical arguments, true, but they *are* real,
unfortunately...
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