Hi,

It's not that there are bugs, it's that the same bugs remain there release after release while new features were added (with their own set of new bugs, so the list got bigger) and we were expectws to pay for new versions over and over again with all the old problems still there!

All the Best
Dave


On 18 May 2007, at 09:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Joel wrote a long, and fairly sesquedepelian,
disquisition on Bugs that were not fixed in 2.8.1.

On my lap just now I have:

"Modern Systems Analysis And Designs" by Hoffer,
George and Valacich - Prentice Hall, 2002 - ISBN
0-13-042363-7

This (extremely boring and tedious) book goes to great
lengths to explain that:

1. "perfection" is an illusion.

2. aim for 60% and then be happy when you get 80%.

3. Systems Development is a long, tedious and
iterative business.

(fairly good summary of whole book in three bullet
points).

This makes me think of F. Waismann (friend of Ludwig
Wittgenstein) who never wrote a book - when he died
somebody found a set of shoeboxes under his bed full
of record cards - from which they were able to
assemble 2 brilliant, mind-blowing books.

Now, we could wait for 25-40 years while RunRev
produce the App to blow away all other apps . . . but
I will be a doddering old f**t of 85 by then [there
is, of course, the theory that I am already a
doddering old f**t :) ].

Some of us would rather support a very good
'work-in-progress' than wait for the great day.

So Joel's long 'thing' about bugs is, to my mind,
rather naive and silly.

I have been using Runtime Revolution for about 5-6
years - and have just had a look at RR 1.1.1 (lurking
on a hard drive somewhere) and realised just how far
the 'beast' has come. Hey, why not dig out Hypercard
and play with that?

RunRev should be 'nudged' continually about the bugs;
then in the next iteration a few more bugs will have
been ironed out - AND, inevitably, more bugs will crop
up as the feature set in expanded. I have had a lot of
fun "bashing the betas".

Played with a demo version of another RAD the other
day: it didn't have an "bugs" - the whole bl**dy thing
was a giant cockroach, and I spent 6 hours rescuing my
system after it had strutted its extremely funky
stuff.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

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