Down with the experts, long live the inexperienced

Fooey. That's a ridiculous statement.

Everybody's inexperienced in the ways of Rev at first. And Rev isn't perfect, but neither is Democracy or the English language.

For most of us X-talk speaks to us and we like to code that way. A lot of people come to Rev from widely diverse areas that have nothing to do with 'computer science'. So don't assume that anyone here is 'better' than you at this. There's not a person here that doesn't have 'holes' in their knowledge of Rev that they haven't explored. You just tons of free support from people that HAVE been there. This very forum is one of the most appealing features of Rev. (Down with the Experts??)

If you're honest enough to call yourself a newbie, then pick up whatever you call 'quirks' about the language, stop and listen to the experts and move on. It like learning French (if one speaks "American" or vice versa) or anything else.

You learn the quirks and rules. The rules aren't there to get in the way of your productivity, they are there to show you the limits of the tool. Sometimes you have to take a couple of minutes in this list and ask questions and not depend totally on the docs. Sometimes you just experiment and get it working. There are often 20 ways to do the same thing.

So messing with the loop variable, I say again, is long established rule in PROGRAMMING, and now you know. You couldn't reliably do it in Basic on the Apple II, nor in Hypercard, and not now in Rev.

I'm sorry you feel bad that you didn't know. Not knowing this fact does not make you inexperienced. We all learn stuff every day on this list.

For me, a Hypercard coder since 1988, the Rev of today is the highest evolution of X-Talks - with way fewer or no externals. But it was originally Hypercard that put me immediately into a project without touching the ground. I was using it within hours. Z-Basic took tons of code to make a window. The choice was clear.

I repeat from my first post on the topic:
"Adding description for every unexpected behaviour is like trying to prevent a breach in a dyke by explaining to the water that it should go somewhere else. If the language would behave as expected, there would be less airquote & bug & airquote reports immediately (and less breaking dykes)."

Down with the experts, long live the inexperienced
Björnke

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stephen barncard
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