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Yeah, I tend to regrab the pattern with each OS X release.

Yup.  But very fiddly.  :-)

If Apple keeps fading the stripes, it'll eventually return to Platinum. :)

LOL!!

Expectations have indeed been lowered by sloppy developers, but I see other people's laziness as our competitive advantage: apply nothing more than the discipline we learn from Day 1 designing for Mac OS, reading the HIG and applying as appropriate, when we move our apps to Windows the integrate better with Microsoft's work than some of our competitors who've been there for years.

Indeed. And your observation is a good one. Microsoft always gave me the feeling that they were going to have a GUI too! But we'll make it different enough to be different. Plus the MDI concept has had a *huge* impact on Windows HIG and app's in general. I was surprised Linux desktops are so similar to Windows and not Mac. Though my main work is still on Windows boxes I really do find the Mac cleaner and tidier. Kind of comparing "class" and "ass". <vbg>

But of course cross-platform HIG adherence will only be pervasive in the Rev community to the degree the tool makes it easy. If folks have to jump through hoops just to adopt conventions, must of their work will look out of synch with modern conventions, reflecting badly on RunRev.

I agree. One thing that does annoy me is a lack of decorations in modal dialogs under Windows with Rev app's. I can fake it easy enough - but I wish I didn't have too.

So for the benefit of RunRev Ltd and all of us, for your voting pleasure:

<http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5186>

Will vote as soon as my ISP gets http working again (it seems to be down right now).

Scott
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