You're using a 9 year old release. There have been literally hundreds of 
correctness fixes over those 9 years. You need to upgrade.

The rest of your answers inline.



On 2025/10/10 12:56:58 FMH wrote:
> Few times a week, our developers report that Cassandra retrieves are
> coming back with zero rows. No error messages.
> 
> Using the same item ID's, a CQLSH SELECT statement returns a single row as
> expected. Furthermore, the NODETOOL GETENDPOINTS returns three IP's as we
> expect.
> 
> This confirms these ItemID's do exist in Cassandra, it is just the Java
> clients are not retrieving it.
> 
> We noticed this issue to present itself more when nodes are replaced in the
> cluster as a result of EC2 node deprecation.

Are you using EBS or ephemeral disk? Don't use ephemeral disk unless you are 
much better at running cassandra and know how to replace a node without data 
loss (which you do not seem to know how to do).


> 
> Once the developers restarted the Java client apps, it was now able to
> retrieve these ItemID's.

That sounds weird. It may be that they read repaired or normal-repaired, or it 
may be that the java apps were pointing to the wrong thing/cluster. 

> 
> 1- Is this what is called the 'empty' read' behavior?
> 2- Is this caused by clients topology metadata getting out of sync with the
> cluster?

Could be cluster scaling unsafely due to ec2 events. 
Could be low consistency level
Could be any number of hundreds of topology bugs fixed since 2016.

If it's a client bug, I assume it's an old client bug I've never seen before. 
Well functioning cassandra clients shouldn't care about the topology, the 
coordinating server will forward the request anyway. 

> 3- How can this be detected? Should we have client drivers return 'metadata
> = cluster.metadata' and compare it to 'nodetool gossipinfo'?

Upgrade your cluster.
Use EBS so when nodes change, they don't change data ownership. 

> 4- Other than restarting the clients, is there a way to have client apps to
> force to refresh their ring metadata?
> 
> The client apps are using 'com.datastax.oss:java-driver-core:4.13.0'
> driver.
> 
> Google returns little information about this and GenAI's chat model even
> though useful, they tend to hallucinate with confidence often.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> Thank you
> 

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