On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

> 
> On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:42 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Radim Kolar wrote:
>> 
>>> I propose to make classloading in 3.0 entirely different. Give user 
>>> aplication access to javax.* stuff and other required J2EE 6 apis and 
>>> nothing else unless told otherwise by deployment descriptor.
>> 
>> I'd like this too.  How do you propose to get this to work?  I've been 
>> working on several ideas that end up requiring major modifications to 
>> geronimo that I haven't been able to get to work.  Any ideas you might have 
>> would be great to see.
> 
> Agreed. We'd discussed this previously, IIRC.
> 
>> 
>> What I'd actually like to see is that, instead of arbitrarily importing any 
>> particular set of classes, we run bnd on the application classes to 
>> determine the Import-Packages needed.
> 
> Are you saying you don't want to arbitrarily import spec api classes? Or are 
> you suggesting we use BND to dynamically determine Import-Packages for 
> non-spec classes? I assume the latter would be filtering (not importing) 
> packages that are already included in the application archive?

I imagine we can figure out how to configure bnd to not generate import-package 
for anything in the application.  It might be a little different from the 
maven-bundle-plugin since maven will be missing.

> 
> Automatically importing a default set of spec api classes would be a good 
> first step, IMO. And require explicit Import-Packages -- at least initially.

I'd like there to be no default import-packages and all imports, spec or 
anything else, be determined by byte-code analysis by bnd.  If you need more 
(e.g. dynamic class loading) you can specify bnd instructions.  I don't think 
this will really work until we get everything in the server to work as a bundle 
extender, but maybe I'm being too pessimistic.

david jencks

> 
> --kevan

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