I would consider appealing to authority figures by summarizing points from current books that describe the problems with EJBs and especially entity EJBs with specific references to books in case they actually care to read it themselves. I believe the first or second chapter of POJOs in Action has some good points in this area. The book Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture has a page on it. It is the reason for Spring framework and related "light weight frameworks".
Might be a tough sell if they have accepted life with EJBs. Maybe you just present it as an alternative that might be useful in some situatation. In other words, plant the seed and maybe they'll come around to it at some point especially if they independently happen to read more about iBATIS other light weight frameworks at some point. Another idea is to see if they'd care to do a "study group" with you on a book like the two that I mentioned. By study group, I mean that everybody reads on their own (e.g. a chapter per week) and then you meet once a week (usually at lunch time) to discuss what you've read. To make the meeting useful, I find that you need a "discussion leader" for each meeting (could be the same person each week or alternate). I like to have the discussion leader turn key points into questions directly from the text and use that as the agenda for the meeting. Good luck! Nathan -----Original Message----- From: jaybytez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Selling iBatis to the skeptics I am setting up a brown bag session on Tuesday with two of the successful apps that I have built with iBatis. I am trying to find good resources to help me convince others in our group of the benefits of iBatis. The developers I have to be concerned with are primarily J2EE only developers who like Entity Beans and don't understand the need for this iBatis thing and its XML. I on the other hand, have found the benefits of abstraction, reduction in boilerplate code, and simplified testing. Any other items or specific subjects I should discuss in selling iBatis to J2EE developers? Thanks! jay blanton -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Selling-iBatis-to-the-skeptics-tf1945597.html#a5334876 Sent from the iBATIS - User - Java forum at Nabble.com.
