Hi Clinton,

----- "Clinton Begin" <clinton.be...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: "Clinton Begin" <clinton.be...@gmail.com>
> To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org, "Trenton D. Adams" <tre...@athabascau.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:13:01 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> Subject: Re: Request for input on porting iBatis XML from 2.x to 3.0
>
> Thanks Trenton... That's exactly how iBATIS 1 > 2 worked.  But then I
> swore I'd never write XSLT again.  :-)  That said, if you have it,
> that is awesome.
> 
> The approach we're looking at would be a ConfigurationWriter that
> took
> an instance of Configuration and wrote out the XML files.  That way
> you could more easily handle the edge cases that require logic that's
> difficult to implement in XSLT... like some of the dynamic SQL
> changes, and the type aliases that need to be rolled up into the
> configuration file, etc.

XSLT has functionality that allows you to call methods from the language you 
are using (Java in our case *grin*).  In the case where there is data inside of 
an XML element, that is not XML itself, you can just pass that to the Java 
code.  That's one of the benefits of XSL.  It allows a mix of Java (or other 
languages you run it from) and XSL.  The XSL would then control the flow of 
conversion, but some Java code could run that does other stuff.  Presumably 
(not knowing the internals of iBatis), you could pass the element contents to 
existing methods that iBatis has for dealing with that data, to strip it out 
into iBatis data structures, POJOs, or whatever iBatis does internally.  From 
there, you could then have the new iBatis 3.0 code spit out whatever it wants, 
into a string, and give it back to the XSL.

So, I would think the easiest way (again, without knowing iBatis internals) 
would be to write this "ConfigurationWriter" as you say, partly with XSLT.  I'm 
assuming this is some sort of iBatis abstraction/interface, or something like 
that, that, well, writes configuration files, hehe?  Or is this a new concept 
that you came up with on the fly?

I haven't had time to follow here, as I'm trying to wrap up some work before I 
go on 6 months research and study leave, of which iBatis is designated as part 
of my research.  So, when is this 3.0 expected to be ready do you think?

Also, XSL isn't that bad (though I understand your initial pain, lol), unless 
you don't have a good reference. ;)  It's a bit annoying at the beginning, 
because the syntax learning curve is a bit of a pain.  But, once you're into 
it, you're into it for good.  I recently did a huge amount of work with XSL at 
my workplace.  I fell in love, to say the least.  And, as you know, a lot of 
times it's easier to learn something when you have a starting point, with a 
working project for example.  So, if this XSL ConfigurationWriter was written, 
you would probably not have a problem understanding it.  As I said, it's really 
the syntax that gets you.

One last thing about XSLT, is it makes your DOMs pain go away, muhahahahaha 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_onset_muscle_soreness).  Seriously 
though, all that DOM code you have to work with, just disappears, and believe 
me, you are probably having a lot more pain with that, but just don't realize 
it. ;)  I started to write straight DOM code with my last project, and switched 
to XSLT within minutes of messing around, though I did have some XSLT 
experience previously.

Okay, the rant is complete.  Gotta hit the sack, I have a lot of work to do 
before September, when my leave starts.

> 
> Any and all ideas and implementations are welcome here though.  I'm
> not sure I'll have time to write the ConfigurationWriter any time
> soon.
> 
> Clinton
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Trenton D.
> Adams<tre...@athabascau.ca> wrote:
> > Why not just use an XSL to convert it?
> >
> > I've attached one that I use now and then, to spit out full SQL from
> a bunch
> > of fragments, as well as output bean code.
> >
> > Trenton D. Adams
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> > ----- "Nathan Maves" <nathan.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> From: "Nathan Maves" <nathan.ma...@gmail.com>
> >> To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org, "larry meadors"
> <larry.mead...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:04:46 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
> Mountain
> >> Subject: Re: Request for input on porting iBatis XML from 2.x to
> 3.0
> >>
> >> We actually already started the talks on how to automate this.  We
> did
> >> this for the last major upgrade and it was a huge help.
> >>
> > Thanks again for your notes.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Larry Meadors
> <larry.mead...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for sharing!
> >> >
> >> > You rock.
> >> >
> >> > Larry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Joel
> >> > Barciauskas<jbarciaus...@nexaweb.com> wrote:
> >> > > Hey everyone,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I just posted the notes that I took as I worked on porting my
> 2.x XML
> >> > > mapping and configuration files to the wiki:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Porting+sqlMapConfig+and+sqlMap+XML+from+2.x+to+3.0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I canceled the port part-way through since I didn’t think I’d
> be able
> >> > > to
> >> > > finish and test it in a reasonable amount of time for my
> current
> >> > > project,
> >> > > but I thought the notes that I took might be useful for
> bootstrapping
> >> > > some
> >> > > documentation, so I went ahead and created this page.  If you
> are
> >> > > familiar
> >> > > with the 3.0 schema, please review it, as I am sure there are
> items
> >> > > that are
> >> > > incorrect.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hope someone finds this of value!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > __________________________________________________________
> >> > > Joel Barciauskas | Technical Consultant
> >> > > Nexaweb Technologies | www.nexaweb.com
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> >> > > Skype™: jbarciauskas
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
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