Philipp,

I retrieved the samples and installed the module. If I am seeing this right, the jsp samples are now limited to one template and two paragraphs. This seems very limited, giving the fact that the basic templating (the sonic templating) site that should be used to create your own web site (according to the release notes) is fully done in ftl. Why would somebody in their right mind use jsp with magnolia and why do you expect a business to mix jsp and freemarker? That could be an awful business decision since you now need people to understand two technologies and not one. Adding new poeple with freemarker knowledge probably is not easy either since it is not a very commonly used technology (dice lists currently 17 positions that mention freemarker in the job description). It really feels to me that magnolia is abandoning JSP as the primary templating language and pushing freemarker. As mentioned before, I am not sure if that is a good message to send to the outside world.

Ruben

Philipp Bracher wrote:

No, but the samples are not pre installed anymore to let the user choose and we recommend to use the new standard templating kit as a starter.

The samples have been rewritten and are now more developer oriented and have been extended by additional use cases: module configuration, custom filter, templating models. The samples demonstrate both template languages (freemarker & jsp) equally.

The samples are delivered with the bundled (in the add-ons) or can be downloaded from our maven repository: http://repository.magnolia-cms.com/m2/info/magnolia/magnolia-module-samples

Note: jsp and freemarker can be used in any kind of combination: for instance freemarker page template with both freemarker and jsp paragraphs.

Philipp Bracher


On 5 Feb 2009, at 16:29, Ruben Reusser wrote:


so all the JSP samples are gone, you are only bundling freemarker samples from now on and promote freemarker as the main templating language?

Ruben

Jan Haderka wrote:
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 23:37 -0800, Ruben Reusser wrote:

hi everyone,

So I downloaded Rc3 and wanted to try it out without the supersonic freemarker templating - how do I actually get magnolia up and running if I do not want to use supersonic? Is there a flag to turn the website admininterface back to the tree instead of that info screen?


You are not able to see website tree because you do not have any
templates in your installation yet. You can either get the templating
kit or follow the other link that explain how to create templates or
since you know that already you can create a template yourself as you
did before. Of course if you have some of yours modules with templates,
you can just drop it in and install.
As soon as you add a valid template you will see the tree.

HTH,
Jan


Thanks

Ruben

btw: is there a version of all those nice templates and paragraphs from supersonic as a JSP version?

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