Thanks Grégory, I really appreciate your help. Comments and questions
below.

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 17:02 +0200, Grégory Joseph wrote:

> 
> > I also saw this in the log before the DB issue...
> > *
> > * Magnolia needs module updates or installs, point your browser to  
> > your
> > Magnolia instance and confirm ! *
> > *
> >
> > ... is it a clue to what is wrong? does that mean the bundle is
> > incomplete?
> 
> Not at all; there's an install "wizard" that you need to go through  
> when first installing, or when updating.

Is there an installer for the Community Edition bundle with tomcat?

On the "Installing Magnolia" page
(http://documentation.magnolia-cms.com/administration/installation.html#InstallingastandaloneMagnoliadistribution)
there is talk of an Enterprise Edition installer but under the heading
Installing the Community Edition it says "The procedure is exactly the
same as for the Enterprise Edition; unfortunately, we don't provide an
installer for the Community Edition at this time."

All I did was extract the files into my home directory and start tomcat.
(Well I had to learn about setting JAVA_HOME - fortunately the script
was very clear about what was needed)

What should I do to run the bundle? I can easily delete it and extract
the files again; is that what I should do? 

Isn't the whole point of the bundle that it is configured and ready to
run? What else do I need to do after extracting the files?

> 
> Out of curiosity, why did you go for 3.6.5, while Magnolia 4.0.1 has  
> been released for a while ?
> (amongst lots of other things, it bundles a newer version of  
> Jackrabbit, which might help with your derby issues)

It was above 4.0.1 in the download list. It looked like it was the
latest bundle posted - so I hoped any kinks would have been worked out!

I clicked "Download Magnolia Community Edition" on the Downloads page
(http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/downloads.html) and that took me to
the sourceforge page
(http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86297&package_id=89560)
Magnolia CE 3.6.5 is listed first and expanded. 

------
If any one is interested here is the trail I followed to get this far
(it ain't pretty) ...

1) Magnolia front page - www.magnolia-cms.com
2) Clicked Products tab 
3) Clicked "Read More" in the Magnolia Community edition block
4) Clicked Download Magnolia Community Edition (on the Magnolia
Community Edition page)
5) Clicked Download Magnolia Community Edition (on the Downloads page)
6) Woah - need to read up on what to download - I'm on SourceForge and
there are 102 downloads to choose from

Go hunting for installation documentation
1) Handy looking block on the download page..
"Documentation 
Magnolia is packaged as a self-running Java installer for all platforms.
Find configuration and usage instructions in the Magnolia
Documentation." but thats a broken link

Go hunting and find the Community tab (on the Downloads page again)
1) Documentation and Wiki looks promising so click on "More about the
software documentation"
2) Community Documentation page - looks good - click on the Read the
official Magnolia Documentation link
3) Now I'm at (http://documentation.magnolia-cms.com/)
4) Yay look at that "install" link right at the top of the page
5) Yikes looks like I need to learn about containers - what to you
recommend? 
6) Container specific notes for tomcat - adjust JVM Heap Size - ye gods
I just want to learn about this cms system not Java
7) Back to the Installing Magnolia page
(http://documentation.magnolia-cms.com/administration/installation.html)
Ahh - look at that - "If you are not familiar with these procedures, we
highly recommend that you use you use the standalone distributions
("bundles")."
8) Well its a bit cryptic but I can see "Installation contents" and I
sorta get that a bundle is Tomcat plus two instances "ready for you to
play with"

Now, where was that source-forge page? Download, extract and try to
start Tomcat 

... and here I am in this mail list - confused and dazed

Thanks in advance for your help and directions.






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