Hi Teresa

Thanks for the update.

I can easily take care of the "utils" module dependency. But this would mean 
that I would also have to work on the JSPs. Therefore I suggest that I wait 
until you have commited your changes. 

As for the CRUD dependency: I have posted the functionality of this module to 
the dev list (as proposed some time ago by Philipp and requested more the other 
day by Giancarlo). I would be happy to open-source that module too but only if 
there is a common agreement on the usefulness of this module and the path it 
should be taking (OCM yes/no? etc.). 

-will

On 08.06.2010, at 09:01, Teresa Miyar wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> About status and next steps, we got some projects on the way so I haven't 
> committed any changes yet.
> 
> - About to commit (June/July):
>       . Move to 4.x
>       . Make it use new mail module as it changed for 4.x
>       . Restructure configuration moving it into this module
>       . avoid data module to throw any tree not found errors as the tree 
> handling is in a new menu point
>       . some cleaning up in jsp templates
> 
> - To be done (dont know when or by whom):
>       . remove dependencies to utils and crud module (either by making them 
> open source or replacing by other modules or at least get a version not a 
> snapshot).
>       . replace jsp by STK templates (low priority as it works as it is)
> 
> - Add it into our svn (planned sometime before september)
> 
> Cheers,
> Teresa
> 
> On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Giancarlo F. Berner wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Will
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for the update.
>> 
>> The second dependency sounds more challenging. I would need to understand a 
>> little more about purposes and what you want to achieve. The content2bean 
>> functionality was developed due to a lack of alternatives (e.g. OCM). I 
>> don't think we should invest too much time into "structuring" extensions to 
>> content2bean just to get the shopping cart module to work. But I would have 
>> to look into the extensions. Interesting how much effort we put into 
>> complying to a framework rather than to the solution...
>> 
>> If you could list the module functionality to the dev list that would be 
>> awesome. It would help me better understand what is available and what needs 
>> to be done.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> /giancarlo
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Will Scheidegger wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Giancarlo
>> 
>> Actually Teresa of Magnolia has been the last to be working on it. She was 
>> supposed to check her work back into the svn server but I have not heard 
>> from her for a while. Let me ping her and I will post the status of the cart 
>> afterwards.
>> 
>> As far as assistance: Yes, there are a few things that still need to be 
>> accomplished before we can release the cart as public CE module. At this 
>> time the cart module still has two dependencies that we need to get rid 
>> of... or we need to opensource the target modules themselves. As for one of 
>> the dependencies, it is only needed for two custom control types which I can 
>> easily integrate into the cart module.
>> 
>> I'm a bit more worried about the second dependency. It is pretty much an 
>> extension to the content2bean functionality in Magnolia. We use it to 
>> convert nodes to beans and back with customizable behavior (e.g. when there 
>> is no node associated with bean x, because bean x is new, then the 
>> controller knows where to create the node for the bean and how to name it 
>> when saving it). This stuff is very handy but also quite "unstructured". So 
>> I'm not real sure how to proceed in this case. Phillip (Magnolia) also 
>> suggested to have a look at Jackrabbits OCM [1] for at least some of the 
>> features. I guess my best bet would be to list the functionality of this 
>> module in a post to the dev list and have people give me their thoughts on 
>> it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> -will
>> 
>> [1] http://jackrabbit.apache.org/object-content-mapping.html
>> 
>> 
>> On 05.06.2010, at 18:44, Giancarlo F. Berner wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey, Will
>>> 
>>> Just curious to know the status of the shopping cart module. If you need 
>>> assistance, let me know.
>>> 
>>> /giancarlo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Will Scheidegger wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Maurizio
>>> 
>>> Actually I have been quite busy working on it in the last couple of days - 
>>> mostly on the admin interface. I'm planning to have a new prototype ready 
>>> in a few days. I would me more than happy to have other developers like you 
>>> join in.
>>> 
>>> -will
>>> 
>>> On 05.03.2010, at 08:57, Maurizio Müller wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> We are looking for a shopping cart integrated in Magnolia, if nobody as 
>>>> this module maybe we could implement it.
>>>> Also for us the best solution is to have the administration integrate in 
>>>> Magnolia like dms, data,...
>>>> 
>>>> Will, do you have news about your shopping cart module?
>>>> 
>>>> Someone has already integrated Konakart or Magento or other shopping cart 
>>>> in Magnolia?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Maurizio
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Will Scheidegger wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul
>>>>> We cleaned up our shopping cart code a bit and sent it to one developer 
>>>>> who said that he was interested in working on it... and have never heard 
>>>>> of him since then. However we are still interested in having a Magnolia 
>>>>> Shop Module. Our main objective is to have one administration environment 
>>>>> (Magnolia) for CMS, DMS, Data, Shop and so on.
>>>>> As mentioned in the old threads you found, we do actually have a few 
>>>>> shops running on our shop module but it still needs quite a bit of work 
>>>>> for it to be useful for the regular Magnolia developer. Again, anybody 
>>>>> interested in co-working on it should drop me a line.
>>>>> On the other hand, Ruben once mentioned that they integrated KonaKart in 
>>>>> Magnolia if I recall correctly. This of course would also be a very nice 
>>>>> solution depending on the level of integration.
>>>>> -will
>>>>> On 16.02.2010, at 22:58, Paul Fitchett wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anything come of these proposals
>>>>>> regarding a shopping cart? We are looking at Magnolia to see if it would 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a good web CMS for us, but we need shopping cart functionality and would
>>>>>> prefer not to build it from scratch.
>>>>>> Recent news indicates that dotCMS is going to be integrated with 
>>>>>> KonaKart*
>>>>>> and I was wondering if the same thing was happening with Magnolia, or
>>>>>> whether a native Magnolia module had already been developed elsewhere.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Paul Fitchett
>>>>>> *http://www.dotcms.org/company/press-releases.dot?id=1254946
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> View this message in context: 
>>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/shopping-cart--tp25172487p27493194.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Magnolia - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>> 
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