Hi Nils!

Yes, we looked at SimpleMedia - certainly a powerful and nice solution, and it 
would solve some of our problems.

Unfortunately, using SimpleMedia would be too big a change from the extablished 
processes our editors are used to. Basically, like the standard DMS support, 
SimpleMedia is too powerful for our editors, and adapting it would be just as 
much work as what we are currently doing.

We did consider it though.

Regards from Vienna,

Richard



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Im Auftrag von Nils Breunese
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 13:14
An: Magnolia User-List
Betreff: Re: [magnolia-user] DISCUSSION: File & Image Upload


Have you also considered the SimpleMedia module by Openmind?

http://www.openmindlab.com/lab/products/media.html

Nils.

Op 22 dec 2010, om 17:10 heeft Unger, Richard het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Magnolians!
>
> A little discussion I would like to start before Christmas: the way 
> file-upload works in Magnolia (Images, Documents).
>
> We're looking at replacing/modifying some of the logic handling file-uploads.
>
> Shortcomings of magnolia's current implementation include:
>
> ·         No separation between images and documents
> ·         No way to force "the correct choice" - user can pick a PDF when 
> they should be picking an image, they can pick a folder instead of a 
> document, etc.
> ·         No way to make an internal Link (or document Link) field required 
> ("required" setting for controls does not work on uuidLink)
> ·         No way to force file-types on upload - user can upload anything, 
> from .exe to .psd, no filtering of allowed file-types is possible
> ·         No preview when picking images
> ·         No handling of embedded image metadata (EXIF, XMP)
> ·         No difference between "New File" and "New Image" à all document 
> metadata is the same
> ·         Useability: if you make a mistake in the "New File" dialog, the 
> field with the file to upload is cleared, forcing you to choose the file again
>
> We're addressing these issues with some custom modules, which:
>
> ·         Provide specific Trees (based on DMSAdminTree) for Images and 
> Documents
> o   Trees are based on DMS content (use the dms repository) but show only 
> images or documents, respectively
> ·         Provide different Upload dialogs for our custom trees, allowing 
> different metadata on images and documents
> ·         Provide specific uuidLinkDocument and uuidLinkImage controls 
> forcing the user to pick documents of a specific type
> ·         Provide an improved repository browser, with image preview, image 
> upload, and using our trees
>
> This is mostly working well.
>
>
> However, to handle issues related to file-upload, I am now running into some 
> problems:
>
> ·         How to force upload of specific file types?
> ·         How to extract metadata from images at the right moment?
>
> The Problem is that the current implementation for the "New Document" dialog 
> does everything in one step: the user enters the metadata and picks the 
> image, and then uploads everything at the same time.
>
> I was thinking of a 2-step solution:
> 1.       first the user chooses and uploads the document
> ·         the system can check the document type against configured allowed 
> types
> ·         the system can extract the metadata from the document to provide 
> default values for the next step
> 2.       in a second step, the user is presented with the metadata form and 
> can enter the values for metadata
> ·         any metadata found in the image is prefilled in the dialog fields
>
> What do people think? Is this the right way to go about it?
> Can you suggest any easier way to implement this?
>
> Thanks for your attention,
>
> Richard Unger
> Vienna, Austria
>
> PS: For those interested, a little background to motivate why I am asking 
> these questions:
>
> We're implementing a Magnolia-EE based System for a large government sector 
> customer - the final system will run about 50 Websites, maintained by 150 or 
> so editors in different departments. Very few of our editors have strong 
> computer skills.
> For this reason ease of use for the editors is very important to us - things 
> that might seem trivial to us programmers or to an experienced web-content 
> person can be serious problems for less advanced users.
>
> Magnolia's GUI is very intuitive in general, we have already received a lot 
> of positive feedback from our testing editors.
> However, one area that is consistently causing problems is the image and 
> document handling.
>
>
>
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