sorry, forgot to attach the relevant logs :

(ip) - - [12/Jun/2013:13:03:55 -0400] "POST /.magnolia/activation HTTP/1.1"
200 - "-" ...

(ip)  - - [12/Jun/2013:13:03:59 -0400] "GET /.magnolia/activation HTTP/1.1"
403 - "-" ...

(ip)  - - [12/Jun/2013:14:30:16 -0400] "POST /.magnolia/activation
HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-"...

(ip)  - - [12/Jun/2013:14:30:19 -0400] "GET /.magnolia/activation HTTP/1.1"
403 - "-" ...

(ip)  - - [13/Jun/2013:07:00:00 -0400] "POST /.magnolia/activation
HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" ...


and this is 4.5.8 EE

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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Vinny <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you for the information.
> Had a chance to do some further testing from our production auth to pub
> boxes and one thing we discovered was that POST to /.magnolia/activation
> work OK (200) but GETs from the same url return 403s. Does the
> transactional exchange use GET to verify the transaction? I'm wondering if
> this could just be a configuration issue or a possible magnolia bug.
> Thanks,
> Vince
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Jan Haderka <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> It should not be living very long. The lock is created only after all the
>> resources are already received on public server, and what happens is
>> roughly the following
>>
>> - acquire lock
>> - make a backup of activated page
>> - apply incoming change
>> - send back OK
>> - wait for receiving COMMIT
>> - remove backup
>> - send back OK
>>
>>
>> so the only reasons for slowdown could be either manipulation of big
>> data, connection problems to the database, long time waiting for commit
>> (problems with network connection between author and other public instances)
>>
>>
>> If you enable debug level logging for activation related classes you
>> should be able to find out more. In case of multiple concurrent activations
>> you can use the ID of transaction (number before ":" ) to tie related
>> messages together. The number after the ":" is a timestamp.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Jan
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Vinny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I see, besides a binary file being attached ( we don't use binary items
>> on our templates/components as far as I know) what could a reason for a
>> lock living so long?
>>
>> --
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>> personal: http://xaymaca.tumblr.com/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Jan Haderka <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vinny,
>>>
>>> perhaps it's just the message that is confusing.
>>>
>>> What happens during activation is that parent page of the page that is
>>> being activated needs to be locked (in order to prevent reordering or
>>> removal of activated page in case of concurrent activation of parent). And
>>> that is all that message meant - parent page of the /foo and /bar => "/"
>>> was locked and since /bar failed to acquire lock on "/" it didn't activate.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Vinny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to add a few more data points to this issue. pub logs look like the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 09:20:09,531 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 173:1370352009530 
>>> Content /foo is locked by transaction. Will retry 10 more times.
>>> 2013-06-04 09:20:12,237 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 173:1370352009530 User 
>>> superuser successfully activated /foo on ROOT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:29,526 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 10 more times.
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:31,527 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 9 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:33,527 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 8 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:35,528 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 7 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:37,529 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 6 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:39,529 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 5 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:41,530 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 4 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:43,531 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 3 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:45,531 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 2 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:47,532 INFO  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> Content /bar is locked by transaction. Will retry 1 more times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013-06-04 11:01:49,533 WARN  
>>> nolia.module.exchangetransactional.XAReceiveFilter: 233:1370358089525 
>>> activate of page / in website took 20.008 seconds. If this page doesn't 
>>> contain big binary file it might mean that the performance of your public 
>>> instance is sub-optimal. Please contact support about review of load or 
>>> configuration of your instances.
>>>
>>>
>>> One odd thing is that activation of page "/" took 20 seconds, not "/bar"
>>>
>>>
>>> These pages have no binary data , simply strings
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> personal: http://xaymaca.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Vinny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the upgrade to Magnolia 4.5.8 we have been seeing the following
>>>> in our author instance logs:
>>>>
>>>> info.magnolia.cms.exchange.ExchangeException: Message received from
>>>> subscriber: Operation not permitted,  /fooNode is locked by unfinished
>>>> transaction
>>>>
>>>> The way this has manifested itself on the front end is that when we try
>>>> to activate a page, the change does not occur on the author instances. Then
>>>> after a 10-20 minutes, activation works again and we get a success log
>>>> message. Just wondering if anyone has seen something like this before.
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Vincent
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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