On 05.10.2005, at 14:12, Alexandru Popescu wrote:

Alex,
when I first wrote the Quickstart, the connection between templates, dialogs and paragraphs was most confusing to me and I hope that its somewhat made clear how things connect in the current release, that was reworked by Giancarlo.

what are you refering to?

the quickstart templaters guide (aka Planting the Seeds)

Even if the user may associate this Dialog with the renderization, from the template designer point of view is more like defining the Model + View.

very true.

Anyways, I hope that one day someone has the time to write an interface to administer dialog/paragraph/template structures more easily.

What do you think would be the right direction for this? You never know who may start working on it ;-).

;-)
I would say its surely a nice task if you want to get into it.
OK lets try to outline my "vision" of what this should do

! problem (aka challange)
You want to be able to define paragraphs, templates, dialogs (PTD's) and need to manage their dependencies; for bonus points add role based or site based template availability (which templates are available where to whom)

! situation today
You can define PTD's within adminCentral by creating nodes and knowing what you do. Its hard to remember how things belong together for newbies (whats a template, a dialog, a paragraph?). The bonus points are not possible at all.

! the goal
Create a modul / GUI that manages templates. It brings together PTD's into one page in a structured way (which template has which paragraphs using which "dialogs"), maybe allow to move/copy paragraphs around, create new PT&D's and generally have a higher level of abstraction, i.e. no user knowledge needed to create a new PTD definition and especially no way to do things wrong.

As another add-on, allow to create bare-bones JSP templates out of your PTDs so that you can get up to speed really fast (just add water).

Can you see it? It would make creating templates really easy, and I could shrink the quickstart guide to 1 page :-)

Also check http://jira.magnolia.info/browse/MAGNOLIA-76 for a pointer how dialogs could be build

Cheers
Boris


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