Nicolas,

You've probably misunderstood me. It's not that _we_ would do anything with Typo3, it's just that we have a quote outstanding where we compete against other companies working with Typo3 and other CMS. I _know_ the pros of Magnolia and I _know_ that content management with many other tools is just simply a pain, but I also know that it's not very cool when you've offered a custom magnolia extension to get versioning for mucho dinero when your competitor can say: "Oh, it's all in there and won't cost you a cent".

Again: I did not say that any other cms is better. All I said was that it is crucial for us to know wether the new features are included in the community edition because in that case we can adjust our quote.

Thats all folks! ;-)

-Will

On 15.05.2006, at 09:30, Nicolas wrote:

Will,

I went back to compare Magnolia with other CMSes recently. The ease with which you can install and run the software in less than 5 minutes, also the way you can have a wysiwyg preview of whatever you're doing in magnolia are really killer-features missing from other ones. The cleanness of the whole interface is also incredible. (along with many other features I just love)

I tried to install typo3 because I had to use a php-based CMS. After using magnolia for so many months, it looked really clunky, un-natural, confusing, obscure ... even though it is said to have a good bunch of great features.

I think, to complete on the business model proposed by the magnolia team, it would be nice to have a summary of the content of the training (was really good, but had no idea what to expect before going there), also it'd be nice to have a clearly detailed list of features, and how you can really easily access/install/use those features by using the enterprise/business edition.

On some more notes, it should be striking clear what the enterprise edition is offering. (Professional documentation and explanation would certainly be a must)

My 2-monday-afternoon ¥ :D

Regards,

Nicolas,

On May 15, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Will Scheidegger wrote:

Pascal

For a project that we have a quote outstanding would you mind answering this: Are versioning and scheduling part of the community edition? This would greatly improve the change of Magnolia being used for the project, because the competition CMS (Typo3 etc.) all have this included for free.

Thanks.

-Will

On 15.05.2006, at 08:31, Pascal Mangold wrote:

it is very easy: As Boris said there will be 3 Products:

MAGNOLIA COMMUNITY EDITION is a free, easy-to-use yet
powerful enterprise content management system based on
JSR-170.

MAGNOLIA ENTERPRISE EDITION offers additional features,
availability of professional support and an upgrade path to
new versions for mission critical enterprise content
management.

MAGNOLIA BUSINESS PROCESS EDITION lets you draw and document
business processes directly in the browser without the need
of additional client software.

The Community Edition is under LGPL and free. For Enterprise use, there is a Enterprise Edition with available support options, still open-source but with a license fee. Last but not least our business process edition which is open-source as well but not free either.


Regards,

Pascal Mangold
CEO obinary ltd.

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On 15.05.2006, at 08:22, Will Scheidegger wrote:

On 12.05.2006, at 15:41, Magnolia News List wrote:
[...] Magnolia 3.0 is the first commercial open-source Enterprise
Content Management System [...]

The new features sound great, but the line above makes me a bit sceptic: What exactly is a "commercial open-source" product? I've heard some rumors before. Could the Magnolia Organization please provide the details system integrators need?
Thanks!

Regards,
Will

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