Great, that helps. Thanks for the info, Ariel!

I think this might be an area we want to revisit in later versions of Accumulo to make the client API implementations a little more robust and supportive of concurrent usage.

On 2/12/14, 3:10 PM, Ariel Valentin wrote:
Josh,

The symptom is that we hit a point where a single server seems
"unresponsive" but we do not see anything unusual going on in that
machine and it seems idol. No heavy CPU, no I/O wait, low load average;
however when we add additional instances of the JVM our capacity seems
to increase linearly.

Based on thread dumps and profiler stats it appears that under "heavy"
load most of our threads are blocked trying to access ZooCache.


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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Josh Elser <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Didn't mean to ask about the subject matter, but how you were using
    the API. Are you actually seeing contention on ZooCache?


    On 2/12/14, 1:19 PM, Ariel Valentin wrote:

        Sorry but I am not at liberty to be specific about our business
        problem.

        Typical usage is multiple clients writing data to tables, which
        scan to
        avoid duplicate entries.

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        On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Josh Elser
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

             Also, I forgot this part before:

             The ZooCache instance that's used *typically* comes from the
             Instance object that your Connector was created from. In other
             words, if you create multiple Instances (ZooKeeperInstance,
             usually), you can get multiple ZooCaches which means that
        concurrent
             calls to methods off of those objects should not block one
        another
             (createScanner off of connector1 from instance1 should not
        block
             createScanner off of connector2 from instance2).

             That should be something quick you can play with if you so
        desire.


             On 2/12/14, 9:57 AM, Josh Elser wrote:

                 Yep, you'll likely also block on BatchScanner, anything in
                 TableOperations, and a host of other things.

                 For scanners, there's likely a standing recommendation to
                 amortize the
                 use of those objects (if you want to look up 5 range,
        don't make 5
                 scanners).

                 Creating a cache per member in the work would likely
        require
                 some kind
                 of paxos implementation to provide consistency which is
        highly
                 undesirable.

                 One thing I'm curious about is the impact of removing
        ZooCache
                 altogether from things like the client api and see what
        happens.
                 I don't
                 have a good way to measure that impact off the top of
        my head
                 though.

                 Anyways, is this causing you problems in your usage of
        the api?
                 Could
                 you elaborate a bit more on the specifics?

                 On Feb 12, 2014 4:48 AM, "Ariel Valentin"
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                 <mailto:ariel@arielvalentin.__com
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:

                      I have run into a problem related to
        ACCUMULO-1833, which
                 appears to
                      have addressed the issue for
        MutliTableBatchWriter; however
                 I am
                      seeing this issue on the scanner side also:

                      394750-"http-/192.168.220.196 <http://192.168.220.196>
                 <http://192.168.220.196>:____8080-35" daemon prio=10

                      tid=0x00007f3108038000 nid=0x538a waiting for
        monitor entry
                      [0x00007f31287d1000]

                      394878:   java.lang.Thread.State: BLOCKED (on
        object monitor)

                      394933- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.fate.____zookeeper.ZooCache.____getInstance(ZooCache.java:301)


                      395012- - waiting to lock <0x00000000fa64f5b8> (a
                 java.lang.Class
                      for org.apache.accumulo.fate.____zookeeper.ZooCache)

                      395120- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.Tables.____getZooCache(Tables.java:40)

                      395196- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.Tables.getMap(____Tables.java:44)

                      395267- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.Tables.____getNameToIdMap(Tables.java:78)

                      395346- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.Tables.getTableId(____Tables.java:64)

                      395421- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.ConnectorImpl.____getTableId(ConnectorImpl.java:____75)

                      395510- at


        
org.apache.accumulo.core.____client.impl.ConnectorImpl.____createScanner(ConnectorImpl.____java:137)


                      I have not spent enough time reasoning about the
        code to
                 understand
                      all of the nuances but I am interested in knowing
        if there
                 are any
                      mitigating strategies for dealing with this thread
                 contention e.g.
                      would creating a cache entry for each member of
        the Zookeeper
                      ensemble help relieve the strain? use multiple
                 classloaders? or is
                      my only option to spawn multiple JVMs?

                      Thanks,

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