Is your iterator which is rewriting data during compaction idempotent?

If you can apply the same function (the iterator) multiple times over the data (maybe only in the scan, maybe in the scan and by a major compaction), the only concern is doing a bit more work in the server. Given that you have many servers, that wouldn't be a big worry IMO.

This wouldn't require you to try to do the trickiness you outlined, no?

Dylan Hutchison wrote:
Thanks Adam and Keith.

I see the following as a potential solution that achieves (1) low
latency for clients that want to see entries after an iterator and (2)
the entries from that iterator persisting in the Accumulo table.

 1. Start a major compaction in thread T1 of a client with the iterator
    set, blocking until the compaction completes.
 2. Start scanning in thread T2 of the client with the same iterator now
    set at scan-time scope. Use an isolated scanner to make sure we do
    not read the results of the major compaction committing, though this
    is not full-proof due to timing and that the isolated scanner is
    row-wise.
 3. Eventually, T1 unblocks and signals that the compaction completes.
    T1 interrupts T2.
 4. Thread T2 stops scanning, removes the scan-time iterator, and starts
    scanning again at the point it last left off, now seeing the results
    of the major compaction which already passed through the iterator.

The whole scheme is only necessary if the client wants results faster
than the major compaction completes.  A disadvantage is duplicated work
-- the iterator runs at scan-time and at compaction-time until the
compaction finishes.  This may strain server resources.

Will think about other schemes.  If only we could attach an apply-once
scan-time iterator, that also persists its results to an Accumulo table
in a streaming fashion.  Or on the flip side, a one-time compaction
iterator that streams results, such that we could scan from them right
away instead of needing to wait for the entire compaction to complete.

Regards,
Dylan Hutchison

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Adam Fuchs <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dylan,

    The effect of a major compaction is never seen in queries before the
    major compaction completes. At the end of the major compaction there
    is a multi-phase commit which eventually replaces all of the old
    files with the new file. At that point the major compaction will
    have completely processed the given tablet's data (although other
    tablets may not be synchronized). For long-running non-isolated
    queries (more than a second or so) the iterator tree is occasionally
    rebuilt and re-seeked. When it is rebuilt it will use whatever is
    the latest file set, which will include the results of a completed
    major compaction.

    In your case #1 that's a tricky guarantee to make across a whole
    tablet, but it can be made one row at a time by using an isolated
    iterator.

    To make your case #2 work, you probably will have to implement some
    higher-level logic to only start your query after the major
    compaction has completed, using an external mechanism to track the
    completion of your transformation.

    Adam


    On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dylan Hutchison
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hello all,

        When I initiate a full major compaction (with flushing turned
        on) manually via the Accumulo API
        
<https://accumulo.apache.org/1.6/apidocs/org/apache/accumulo/core/client/admin/TableOperations.html#compact(java.lang.String,%20org.apache.hadoop.io.Text,%20org.apache.hadoop.io.Text,%20java.util.List,%20boolean,%20boolean)>,
        how does the table appear to

         1. clients that started scanning the table before the major
            compaction began;
         2. clients that start scanning during the major compaction?

        I'm interested in the case where there is an iterator attached
        to the full major compaction that modifies entries (respecting
        sorted order of entries).

        The best possible answer for my use case, with case #2 more
        important than case #1 and *low latency* more important than
        high throughput, is that

         1. clients that started scanning before the compaction began
            would not see entries altered by the compaction-time iterator;
         2. clients that start scanning during the major compaction
            stream back entries as they finish processing from the major
            compaction, such that the clients /only/ see entries that
            have passed through the compaction-time iterator.

        How accurate are these descriptions?  If #2 really were as I
        would like it to be, then a scan on the range (-inf,+inf)
        started after compaction would "monitor compaction progress,"
        such that the first entry batch transmits to the scanner as soon
        as it is available from the major compaction, and the scanner
        finishes (receives all entries) exactly when the compaction
        finishes.  If this is not possible, I may make something to that
        effect by calling the blocking version of compact().

        Bonus: how does cancelCompaction()
        
<https://accumulo.apache.org/1.6/apidocs/org/apache/accumulo/core/client/admin/TableOperations.html#cancelCompaction(java.lang.String)>
        affect clients scanning in case #1 and case #2?

        Regards,
        Dylan Hutchison





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