Hi Christopher, these are all very good questions, and it would be useful to 
supplement the wiki with them.
Comments inline.

On 5/9/15, 11:59 AM, "Christopher Jackson" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Hi All,

I’ve been in the process of creating a custom Ambari service over the past week 
and have quite a few general questions in which I haven’t found answers for in 
documentation or on the wiki. I was hoping some of you could help answer any of 
the following questions. Thanks in advance.

1) I’ve noticed that when restarting a services component that is of type 
‘CLIENT’ that its install and configure method are invoked. I’m wondering if 
it’s in intended and if so why? For components of type ‘MASTER’ a restart 
doesn’t seem to invoke install and configure again, it just invokes stop then 
start. I ask about this because in my custom service I have a CLIENT component 
in which there are some steps I do in the install stage that I don’t want 
repeated every time its restarted.

Alejandro> For clients, a "Restart" or "Refresh Configs" essentially only needs 
to make sure that the client libraries are present and the configs are setup. 
Since technically a client cannot be restarted because it is not a daemon, the 
code is written in such a way that it is idempotent, so no harm in installing 
libs that are already present, or settings configs that are already there.
For Masters, they have independent commands to Install the libs, and Restart 
the daemon process.
For your client, is there any artifact you can check to avoid running your 
one-time-install multiple times?

2) Can someone explain the implication of the auto-deploy and its child 
elements in the context where the following snippet would be placed in the 
metainfo.xml file of a custom service component 
(MY_SERVICE/MY_COMPONENT_MASTER)?

<dependency>
<name>HBASE/HBASE_CLIENT</name>
<scope>host</scope>
<auto-deploy>
<enabled>true</enabled>
<co-locate>MY_SERVICE/MY_COMPONENT_CLIENT</co-locate>
</auto-deploy>
</dependency>

Alejandro> This is a really good question. Some components depend on others, 
and those dependencies need to be installed automatically, either anywhere in 
the cluster, the same host, or on the same host that contains another 
component. You probably don't need the "co-locate" tag, since it is used to 
indicate masters that must be together, and is configured in the UI during the 
Service Install Wizard.

3) When creating a configuration file for a custom service what are the valid 
entries for a <property-type> tag? PASSWORD, and what else? Is there any other 
child elements of ‘property’ that are useful? Perhaps anything that allows you 
to provide a regular expression for validation?

Alejandro> These are PASSWORD, USER, GROUP, TEXT.  These only contain name, 
value, description. If you need to use regex to validate a property, that means 
the UI should take care of it, so take a look at ambari-web module, 
particularly, config_property_helper.js

4) Is there some function to restart a service in resource_management or other 
ambari python library? Or should I just be restarting services using the 
command line tools and ensuring to update the appropriate pid files? I ask this 
question because I’ve noticed I cannot restart a service using the Ambari API 
as part of the installation/configuration steps of my custom service, as the 
restart commands are queued while the custom service installation/configuration 
is running, and will cause a timeout. I’m looking for a solution to this 
problem, what’s recommended if not one of the approaches I’ve asked about above?

Alejandro> Once the service is defined in the metainfo.xml file, along with the 
python file to use, it's up to that script to decide how to install and restart 
your service. Ambari doesn't couple config changes with forcing the service to 
restart automatically, this is because if a user makes a config change or 
installs something, Ambari only highlights that the service needs to be 
restarted, but it's up to the user to decide when to do it. If you wanted to do 
automatic restarts upon config changes, then that your python script would then 
have to call the restart() method. Take a look at script.py

5) How can I allow for the removal of a custom service from the ambari console? 
I know there is a sequence of Ambari API commands I can run to: stop the 
service, stop each of its components, and then finally delete the service but 
is there any way to incorporate that into the Ambari UI instead of having a 
script on the filesystem that invokes those calls?

Alejandro> Ambari UI allows deleting a component as long as it is stopped. This 
is done from the Host Details page. But deleting a service entirely is more 
complicated and I don't believe the API supports this today (probably because 
it would have do delete records from a lot of tables and is not a common use 
case).

Thanks so much,
Christopher Jackson

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