Hi Ganesh,
AMS in AMbari version 2.2.1 had some perf impact due to HBase noramlizer, I would recommend upgrading to 2.4.1 if possible. Regarding 2] The HBase and HDFS alerts are not all based off of AMS only the Namenode alerts ending with "_hourly" or "_daily" depend on AMS. Other alerts either are port/pid or jmx based. - Sid ________________________________ From: Ganesh Viswanathan <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:07 PM To: Jonathan Hurley Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ambari Metrics Collector Process alert - CRITICAL threshold rule Thanks Jonathan, that explains some of the behavior I'm seeing. Two additional questions: 1) How do I make sure the Ambari "Metrics Collector Process" does not alert immediately when the process is down? I am using Ambari 2.2.1.0 and it has a bug [1] which can trigger restarts of the process. The fix for AMBARI-15492<http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-15492> has been documented in that wiki as "comment out auto-recovery". But that would mean the process would not restart (when the bug hits) bringing down visibility into the cluster metrics. We have disabled the auto-restart count alert because of the bug, but what is a good way to say "if the metrics collector process has been down for 15mins, then alert". 2) Will restarting "Metrics Collector Process" impact the other hbase or hdfs health alerts? Or is this process only for the Ambari-Metrics system (collecting usage and internal ambari metrics). I am trying to see if the Ambari Metrics Collector Process can be disabled while still keep the other hbase and hdfs alerts. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Known+Issues -Ganesh On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Hurley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It sounds like you're asking two different questions here. Let me see if I can address them: Most "CRITICAL" thresholds do contain different text then their OK/WARNING counterparts. This is because there is different information which needs to be conveyed when an alert has gone CRITICAL. In the case of this alert, it's a port connection problem. When that happens, administrators are mostly interested in the error message and the attempted host:port combination. I'm not sure what you mean by "CRITICAL is a point in time alert". All alerts of the PORT/WEB variety are point-in-time alerts. They represent the connection state of a socket and the data returned over that socket at a specific point in time. The alert which gets recorded in Ambari's database maintains the time of the alert. This value is available via a tooltip hover in the UI. The second part of your question is asking why increasing the timeout value to something large, like 600, doesn't prevent the alert from triggering. I believe this is how the python sockets are being used in that a failed connection is not limited to the same timeout restrictions as a socket which won't respond. If the machine is available and refuses the connection outright, then the timeout wouldn't take effect. On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Ganesh Viswanathan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hello, The Ambari "Metrics Collector Process" Alert has a different defintion for CRITICAL threshold vs. OK and WARNING thresholds. What is the reason for this? In my tests, CRITICAL seems like a "point-in-time" alert and the value of that field is not being used. When the metrics collector process is killed or restarts, the alert fires in 1min or less even when I set the threshold value to 600s. This means the alert description of "This alert is triggered if the Metrics Collector cannot be confirmed to be up and listening on the configured port for number of seconds equal to threshold." NOT VALID for CRITICAL threshold. Is that true and what is the reason for this discrepancy? Has anyone else gotten false pages because of this and what is the fix? "ok": { "text": "TCP OK - {0:.3f}s response on port {1}" }, "warning": { "text": "TCP OK - {0:.3f}s response on port {1}", "value": 1.5 }, "critical": { "text": "Connection failed: {0} to {1}:{2}", "value": 5.0 } Ref: https://github.com/apache/ambari/blob/2ad42074f1633c5c6f56cf979bdaa49440457566/ambari-server/src/main/resources/common-services/AMBARI_METRICS/0.1.0/alerts.json#L102 Thanks, Ganesh
