Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb David Jencks:
> Hi Oliver,

hi David,

> maven != osgi.
> 
> I think the document about how the bundle is intended to be used is the
> bundle manifest.  The pom is there to build the bundle.  If you want to
> use the pom for something else, that's kind of your problem.  If you
> describe sufficiently clearly how you want to use the pom, we'll probably
> try to oblige as long as it doesn't break the osgi metadata.
> 
> Trying to use maven dependencies as a guide to osgi provisioning may
> sometimes work, but calling a maven project broken because the way it
> configures maven dependencies doesn't suit how you want to provision osgi
> dependencies is just wrong.
> 
> Btw I've devoted considerable effort over the last year to trying to relate
> osgi provisioning to maven dependencies and my conclusion at this point is
> that it is probably only useful over a very short range, probably for
> building something like a karaf feature descriptor for bundles all from
> one project.
> 
> Your snippet below clearly shows the maven build succeeding.  What makes
> you think it's broken?

thanks for making clear that Aries doesn't use pom's deps for giving OSGi 
provisioning information which I falsely assumed due to my experiencies with 
other OSGified projects.
So I have to add the bundles org.apache.aries.proxy, org.apache.aries.util, 
org.objectweb.asm, org.objectweb.asm.commons and org.objectweb.asm.tree (or at 
least org.apache.aries.proxy.api and org.apache.aries.util) as mentioned in my 
first mail to use the blueprint-bundle and to satisfy all package imports (and 
not only "to rub tests").
Hopefully this thread will help others to find this information as I couldn't 
find it anywhere in source or on the project website.

thanks again,
O.

> thanks
> david jencks
> 
> On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Oliver Lietz wrote:
> > Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham:
> >> The pom clearly "works" since we build the bundle correctly using it.
> >> I'm betting you are trying to use it in a way we didn't intend so can
> >> you provide information on what you are doing so we can look into it?
> > 
> > haha - nice one. Is there a document where the intended use is described?
> > 
> > The build for blueprint-bundle is broken, because the bundle doesn't
> > contain all necessary dependencies and blueprint-bundle's pom doesn't
> > list them. After looking at DEPENDENCIES in META-INF and the output of
> > dependency:tree I'm sure:
> > 
> > beat:blueprint-bundle olli$ mvn clean dependency:tree
> > [INFO] Scanning for projects...
> > [INFO]
> > [INFO]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [INFO] Building Apache Aries Blueprint Bundle 0.3.2-SNAPSHOT
> > [INFO]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [WARNING] The POM for
> > org.apache.aries.proxy:org.apache.aries.proxy.impl:jar:0.4-SNAPSHOT is
> > invalid, transitive dependencies (if any) will not be available, enable
> > debug logging for more details
> > [INFO]
> > [INFO] --- maven-clean-plugin:2.3:clean (default-clean) @
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint ---
> > [INFO]
> > [INFO] --- maven-dependency-plugin:2.1:tree (default-cli) @
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint ---
> > [WARNING] Invalid POM for
> > org.apache.aries.proxy:org.apache.aries.proxy.impl:jar:0.4-SNAPSHOT,
> > transitive dependencies (if any) will not be available, enable debug
> > logging for more details
> > [INFO]
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint:org.apache.aries.blueprint:bundle:0.3.2-
> > SNAPSHOT
> > [INFO] +-
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint:org.apache.aries.blueprint.api:jar:0.3.2-
> > SNAPSHOT:compile
> > [INFO] +-
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint:org.apache.aries.blueprint.core:jar:0.3.2-
> > SNAPSHOT:compile
> > [INFO] |  +- org.apache.aries.blueprint:blueprint-parser:jar:0.4-
> > SNAPSHOT:compile
> > [INFO] |  +-
> > org.apache.aries:org.apache.aries.util:jar:0.4-SNAPSHOT:compile [INFO] |
> >  \- org.apache.aries.proxy:org.apache.aries.proxy.api:jar:0.4-
> > SNAPSHOT:compile
> > [INFO] +-
> > org.apache.aries.blueprint:org.apache.aries.blueprint.cm:jar:0.3.2-
> > SNAPSHOT:compile
> > [INFO] +-
> > org.apache.aries.proxy:org.apache.aries.proxy:jar:0.4-SNAPSHOT:test
> > [INFO] |  \- org.apache.aries.proxy:org.apache.aries.proxy.impl:jar:0.4-
> > SNAPSHOT:test
> > [INFO] +- asm:asm-all:jar:3.2:test
> > [INFO] +- org.eclipse:osgi:jar:3.5.0.v20090520:provided
> > [INFO] +- org.osgi:org.osgi.compendium:jar:4.2.0:provided
> > [INFO] \-
> > org.apache.aries.quiesce:org.apache.aries.quiesce.api:jar:0.3.1-
> > SNAPSHOT:provided
> > [INFO]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
> > [INFO]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [INFO] Total time: 19.515s
> > [INFO] Finished at: Wed Jun 29 23:09:33 CEST 2011
> > [INFO] Final Memory: 9M/1040M
> > [INFO]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > I already gave you a link to the project where I use blueprint-bundle,
> > see below.
> > 
> >> Alasdair Nottingham
> >> 
> >> On 28 Jun 2011, at 23:21, Oliver Lietz <apa...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
> >>> Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham:
> >>>> Alasdair Nottingham
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:46, Oliver Lietz <apa...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
> >>>>> Am Tuesday 28 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham:
> >>>>>> Alasdair Nottingham
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:06, Oliver Lietz <apa...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Am Monday 27 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> hey,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I don't think there are any "plans". In the past releases have
> >>>>>>>> been more "on demand".
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> After the 0.3 release we decided to move to a pre-bundle release
> >>>>>>>> process so their wont be a big 0.4 release like there were
> >>>>>>>> previously. Some bundles might be at 0.4 and some at 0.3.1.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Do you need a release?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> a release with fixed dependencies would be nice. Instead of just
> >>>>>>> switching from org.apache.aries.blueprint 0.2-incubating to 0.3.1 I
> >>>>>>> had to add several missing dependencies (org.apache.aries.proxy,
> >>>>>>> org.apache.aries.util, org.objectweb.asm,
> >>>>>>> org.objectweb.asm.commons, org.objectweb.asm.tree).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm not sure I follow what you mean. I know 0.3 required more
> >>>>>> externals, this was a deliberate decision.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Looks like the manifest of blueprint is broken as it imports
> >>>>> org.apache.aries.proxy and org.apache.aries.util but the scope for
> >>>>> org.apache.aries.proxy in pom.xml is "test".
> >>>> 
> >>>> It isn't broken. The org.apache.aries.proxy import is for a package.
> >>>> The pom depends on modules or bundles. The org.apache.aries.proxy
> >>>> bundle contains the implementation of the proxy package and is only
> >>>> required to rub tests, not to compile the code.
> >>> 
> >>> For sure it's broken, otherwise I won't get this unresolved constraint
> >>> error:
> >>> 
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.exam.rbc.internal.Activator] : Binding
> >>> RemoteBundleContext to RMI registry
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.exam.rbc.internal.Activator] : Remote Bundle Context
> >>> started [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning
> >>> bundle [org.ops4j.pax.exam.rbc]
> >>> [     RemoteBundleContextClient] - Remote bundle context found after
> >>> 1849 millis
> >>> org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle
> >>> org.apache.aries.blueprint [10]: Unable to resolve 10.0: missing
> >>> requirement [10.0] package;
> >>> (&(package=org.apache.aries.proxy)(version>=0.3.0)(! (version>=1.0.0)))
> >>> 
> >>>   at org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3404)
> >>>   at org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1714)
> >>>   at
> >>>   org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.setActiveStartLevel(Felix.java:1143)
> >>>   at
> >>>   org.apache.felix.framework.StartLevelImpl.run(StartLevelImpl.java:264
> >>>   ) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)
> >>> 
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [org.springextensions.db4o]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [org.springframework.beans]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [org.springframework.core]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [org.springframework.transaction]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [com.db4o.java5]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [com.springsource.org.apache.tools.ant]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [com.springsource.javax.inject]
> >>> [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning bundle
> >>> [osgi.core] [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] : Scanning
> >>> bundle [osgi.cmpn] ERROR: Error starting
> >>> file:bundles/org.apache.aries.blueprint_0.3.1.jar
> >>> (org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle
> >>> org.apache.aries.blueprint [10]: Unable to resolve 10.0: missing
> >>> requirement [10.0] package;
> >>> (&(package=org.apache.aries.proxy)(version>=0.3.0)(!
> >>> (version>=1.0.0)))) [org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher] :
> >>> Scanning bundle [org.apache.felix.configadmin]
> >>> 
> >>> Adding the mentioned deps to the pom fixed it.
> >>> 
> >>>>>> We aren't going to bundle dependencies
> >>>>>> into the bundles in the future. If you mean you want a zip that
> >>>>>> contains everything you need for blueprint or jpa
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No, I just want a newer version of blueprint in my OSGi integration
> >>>>> tests
> >>>>> (https://src.springframework.org/svn/se-db4o/trunk/org.springextensio
> >>>>> n s.d b4o- it-osgi/pom.xml).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> we have discussed this and have
> >>>>>> support, we just haven't done a distribution release yet.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> O.

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