Agreed that it is philosophical and can be contentious.  I just started
using CDI via pax-cdi and Camel because Camel 2.17 has better support. Also
I think the pax-cdi that Guillame and I think JB Onofre created are
relatively new. So I've just started using and have a project using it
without any Blueprint XML which I've been using for the past number of
years.  That required a switch to using the Java DSL for the routebuilder
but I didn't find that too painful.

Brad

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Johan Edstrom <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’ve never seen DS used in the wild other than in places where say
> central infrastructure IT provides container services and frameworks.
>
> Still have to see a lot of CDI use and with PaaS offerings and Spring
> revamps and a lot of push BP is from what I gather the only viable
> alternative.
>
> Just my 0.02c.
>
> Since most developers out there just see it as a tool or necessary evil
> in a corporate setting, they don’t really grok services, registrations,
> proxies,
> NamespaceHandlers, SPI providers and so on anyways.
>
> I think it is a very philosophical debate.
>
> /je
>
> > On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Brad Johnson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > While I understand the benefits of DS I'm wondering if it makes much
> difference for end users. I mean if I were creating a library for commons,
> XStream, Beanio or something else then it makes a lot of sense to expose it
> via DS.
> >
> > But when creating end user bundles with Camel routes, beans, interfaces,
> and OSGi services the service damping provided by blueprint seems like a
> positive benefit in that one doesn't have to worry about start up order.
> >
> > That's doubly true now that I've been working with pax-cdi and Camel.
> I'd say the development time is cut in half.  The OSGiSeriviceProvider
> (sp?) annotation still uses blueprint proxies behind the scenes but I don't
> think that's a problem.  What it does do is eliminate the need for all the
> XML configuration which can result in typos and other issues.
> >
> > What are the views on this?
> >
> > Brad
>
>

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