Hi Ryan,

Thank you! These are really great suggestions. I’ll definitely try them.

Best,
Xiaozhen

From: Ryan Murray
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Does Arrow Flight use memory-mapped files for IPC within the same 
host?

Hey Ziaozhen,

There are no plans (that I am aware of) to support memory mapped files as you 
described.
As I see it you have a few options:
* bind Flight to loopback interface (ie 127.0.0.1). The loopback device 
typically skips parts of the network stack and two processes will talk directly 
to each other
* use a unix socket. I believe grpc can bind to a unix socket rather than a 
port which will also be faster than the network stack
* Flight is based on grpc, however it isn't coupled to it. You could 
theoretically replace grpc w/ a memory mapped file based protocol
* design your own IPC w/ memory mapped files

Hope that helps!

Best,

Ryan

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:00 PM Xiaozhen Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
 
Lately, I’ve been experimenting with Arrow Flight. For now, I think it is 
really great, especially when I’m not planning on building my own IPC framework 
(as I’ve mentioned earlier I’m trying to use Arrow to communicate between Java 
and Python processes). And the data transfer speed is very satisfactory, 
although I haven’t tried very big data.
However, I’m wondering this: when I’m using Arrow Flight to do IPC within the 
same machine, is there any kind of optimization? And by optimization I mean 
will Flight internally use something like memory-mapped files to transfer data? 
Because even though Flight optimizes speed, if it still transfers data over the 
wire it cannot be faster than shared-memory (file), right?
I know this may be strange since Arrow Flight is an RPC framework and will 
probably be better suited for communication between different hosts. But the 
fact that it also provides an RPC protocol that saves me the trouble of 
building my own IPC framework makes me choose Flight to do IPC (currently still 
on the same host). 
I know that KNIME Analytics Platform also uses Arrow for IPC, and it also uses 
temp Arrow file to transfer data. I can also do this within the framework of 
Arrow Flight by simply passing the location of temp files in the messages. But 
first I just want to see if it is already implemented by Flight internally. 
I’ve looked up the source code of Flight and haven’t found anything that looks 
like what I’m describing. Am I missing something, or is this the case, Flight 
doesn’t (and doesn’t plan to ) use file for IPC within the same host?
 
Thank you.
 
Best,
Xiaozhen Liu
 

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