Hi Taeyun,

As promised I've posted a proposal for some features here [1][2].

Any feedback is welcomed.

[1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/247z3t06mf132nocngc1jkp3oqglz7jp
[2]: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jhPyPZSOo2iy0LqIJVUs9KWPyFULVFJXTILDfkadx2g/edit?usp=sharing

Best,
David

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, at 19:34, Taeyun Kim wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, I am the author of the StackOverflow questions. :)
> (BTW, I’ve changed my name in my mail address from 김태연(which is made of 
> Korean letters) to ‘Taeyun Kim’ for this mail. I will use the new one from 
> now on.)
>  
> I’m building a SQL-based Arrow Flight server, so my primary interest is Arrow 
> Flight SQL (and the JDBC driver based on that).
> But I think that the functionalities that I asked for are also useful for 
> Arrow Flight RPC.
> So, it would be nice that the functionalities would be implemented first in 
> Arrow Flight RPC and Arrow Flight SQL would use the functionalities.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> *From:* David Li <[email protected]> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2023 9:01 AM
> *To:* dl <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Flight] Releasing the flight stream that was created by 
> GetFlightInfo
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Do you happen to be the author of a related StackOverflow question [1] ? :)
>  
> I replied there, but I'll reply here as well. We just didn't cover every 
> possible use case from the start; Flight has received several proposals, and 
> Flight SQL was extended almost immediately at the start as well. It's great 
> to get questions like these to help see where we might need to evolve next.
>  
> That said, I am working on a proposal to cover both this and a related 
> question [2] in Flight and Flight SQL (as well as other things that I believe 
> will be useful). So I agree these are use cases we should handle. (For 
> instance, being able to explicitly release a stream would be useful for 
> better mapping the JDBC/ODBC/ADBC drivers onto Flight SQL.)
>  
> Just to check, are you interested in having a standardized way to do this in 
> Flight RPC? Or in Flight SQL?
>  
> [1]: 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75228227/apache-arrow-flight-releasing-the-flight-stream-that-was-created-by-getflightin
> [2]: 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75180268/apache-arrow-flight-getting-sorted-data-from-multiple-endpoints
>  
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, at 18:27, 김태연 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> According to the Arrow Flight protocol definition, a client(consumer) can 
>> let the server generate a flight stream through a specified descriptor in 
>> GetFlightInfo. And the flight stream will be available for the duration 
>> defined by the server(a flight service).
>> 
>> But it seems that there is no rpc message that 'releases' the flight stream 
>> that GetFlightInfo generated.
>> 
>> Since the client has no standard way to know or control the duration of the 
>> flight stream availability, I think it is impossible to implement a reliable 
>> client application.
>> 
>> And since the server has no standard way to know when the client is done 
>> with the flight stream, I think it is impossible to implement efficient 
>> flight stream management.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Of course, the duration can be published and the method can be implemented 
>> in a non-standard way by the client and server that know each other, but a 
>> general client (like a BI application) that uses a standard wrapper - for 
>> example, Apache Arrow Flight SQL, let alone a wrapper of wrapper: Apache 
>> Arrow Flight SQL JDBC driver - is out of luck.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is there any standard way for a client(consumer) to release the flight 
>> stream that GetFlightInfo generated? If not, why did the designers choose 
>> not to support that feature?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you in advance.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>  

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