I discover how to fix my issue but not sure I understand why it does.

I created a complete sample here:
https://gist.github.com/ddebrunner/5d4ef21c255c1d40a4517a0060ff8b99#file-cascadewindows-java-L104
Link points to the area of interest.

With the second window I was originally not specifying a trigger so
using the default trigger which lead to multiple triggers of the
combine on the second window.

However changing the trigger to be AfterWatermark.pastEndOfWindow()
produced the output I expected, a single combine across all the
elements in the window.
The gist has comments showing the output and the two code variations.

I don't understand why, since according to 8.1.1 [1] I thought
AfterWatermark.pastEndOfWindow() was the default. Maybe its due to
late data in some way but I'm not sure I understand how the data could
be late in this case.

This is with Beam 2.7 direct runner btw.

Thanks again for your help,
Dan.
[1] https://beam.apache.org/documentation/programming-guide/#event-time-triggers

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:48 AM Daniel Debrunner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Robert, your description is what I'm expecting, I'm working on
> a simple example to see if what I'm seeing is different and then
> hopefully use that to clarify my misunderstanding.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan.
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:31 AM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Windows are assigned to elements via the Window.into transform. They
> > influence grouping operations such as GroupByKey, Combine.perKey, and
> > Combine.globally. Looking at your example, you start with
> >
> >     PCollection<KV<A,B>>
> >
> > Presumably via a Read or a Create. These KVs are in a global window,
> > so the elements are really triples (ignoring PaneInfo) of the form
> >
> >     (KV<A, B>, GlobalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > From what I gather, the next step you do is a
> > Window.into(FixedWindows.of(...)), yielding a PCollection<KV<A,B>>
> > whose elements are, implicitly
> >
> >     (KV<A, B>, IntervalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > Now you apply a GroupByKey to get elements of the form
> >
> >     (KV<A, Iterable<B>>, IntervalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > where there is one Iterable for each distinct key and window. You
> > apply a ParDo to get PCollection<X> which is of the form
> >
> >     (X, IntervalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > It looks like your next step is another
> > Window.into(FixedWindows.of(...)), yielding
> >
> >     (X, IntervalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > where the IntervalWindow here may be different if the parameters to
> > FixedWindows were different (e.g. the first was by minute, the second
> > by hours). If it's the same, this is a no-op. Now you apply
> > Combine.globally(CombineFn<X, R>) to get a PCollection<R> whose
> > elements are of the form
> >
> >     (R, IntervalWindow, timestamp)
> >
> > where there is now one R per window (the elements in the same window
> > being combined, the elements across windows not).
> >
> > FWIW, internally, Combine.globally is implemented as PariWithNullKey +
> > CombinePerKey + StripNullKey.
> >
> > Does this help?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:09 PM Daniel Debrunner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > >
> > > As for every element is always associated with a window, when a
> > > element is produced due to a window trigger (e.g. the GroupByKey) what
> > > window is it associated with? The window it was produced from? Maybe
> > > the question is when is a window assigned to an element?
> > >
> > > I'll see if I can come up with an example,
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:47 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Two pieces to this:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Every element in a PCollection is always associated with a window, 
> > > > and GroupByKey (hence CombinePerKey) operates per-key-and-window (w/ 
> > > > window merging).
> > > > 2. If an element is not explicitly a KV, then there is no key 
> > > > associated with it.
> > > >
> > > > I'm afraid I don't have any guesses at the problem based on what you've 
> > > > shared. Can you say more?
> > > >
> > > > Kenn
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:29 AM Daniel Debrunner <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The windowing section of the Beam programming model guide shows a
> > > >> window defined and used in the GropyByKey transform after a ParDo.
> > > >> (section 7.1.1).
> > > >>
> > > >> However I couldn't find any documentation on how long the window
> > > >> remains in scope for subsequent transforms.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have an application with this pipeline:
> > > >>
> > > >> PCollection<KV<A,B>> -> FixedWindow<KV<A,B>> -> GroupByKey ->
> > > >> PCollection<X> -> FixedWindow<X> -> Combine<X,R>.globally ->
> > > >> PCollection<R>
> > > >>
> > > >> The idea is that the first window is aggregating by key but in the
> > > >> second window I need to combine elements across all keys.
> > > >>
> > > >> With my initial app I was seeing some runtime errors in/after the
> > > >> combine where a KV<null,R> was being seen, even though at that point
> > > >> there should be no key for the PCollection<R>.
> > > >>
> > > >> In a simpler test I can apply  FixedWindow<X> -> Combine<X,R>.globally
> > > >> -> PCollection<R> to a PCollection without an upstream window and the
> > > >> combine correctly happens once.
> > > >> But then adding the keyed upstream window, the combine occurs once per
> > > >> key without any final combine across the keys.
> > > >>
> > > >> So it seems somehow the memory of the key exists even with the new
> > > >> window transform,
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm probably misunderstanding some detail of windowing, but I couldn't
> > > >> find any deeper documentation than the simple examples in the
> > > >> programming model guide.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Dan.

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