I think it was only broken in 2.29.

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 5:53 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah ok thanks for that. Do you mean use_deprecated_reads is broken
> specifically in 2.29.0 (regression) or broken in all versions up to and
> including 2.29.0 (ie never worked)?
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 17:12 Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sorry my email was confusing.  use_deprecated_reads is broken on
>> the DirectRunner in 2.29.
>>
>> The behavior you describe is exactly the behavior I ran into as well when
>> reading from pubsub with the new read method.  I believe that soon the
>> default is being reverted back to the old read method, not using SDFs,
>> which will fix your performance issue.
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 4:40 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Evan,
>>>
>>> It seems like the slow step is not the read that use_deprecated_read
>>> targets for. Would you like to share your pipeline code if possible?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:35 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just tried with v2.29.0 and use_deprecated_read but unfortunately I
>>>> observed slow behavior again. Is it possible that use_deprecated_read is
>>>> broken in 2.29.0 as well?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 3:21 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> oops sorry I was off by 10...I meant 2.29 not 2.19.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:55 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the link/info. v2.19.0 and v2.21.0 did exhibit the
>>>>>> "faster" behavior, as did v2.23.0. But that "fast" behavior stopped at
>>>>>> v2.25.0 (for my use case at least) regardless of use_deprecated_read
>>>>>> setting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:47 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use_deprecated_read was broken in 2.19 on the direct runner and
>>>>>>> didn't do anything. [1]  I don't think the fix is in 2.20 either, but 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be in 2.21.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14469
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:41 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I forgot to also mention that in all tests I was setting
>>>>>>>> --experiments=use_deprecated_read
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I think I spoke too soon. I'm still seeing an issue of
>>>>>>>>> overall DirectRunner slowness, not just pubsub. I have a pipeline 
>>>>>>>>> like so:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read pubsub  |  extract GCS glob patterns  |  FileIO.matchAll()
>>>>>>>>> |  FileIO.readMatches()  |  Read file contents  |  etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have temporarily set up a transform between each step to log
>>>>>>>>> what's going on and illustrate timing issues.  I ran a series of tests
>>>>>>>>> changing only the SDK version each time since I hadn't noticed this
>>>>>>>>> performance issue with 2.19.0 (effectively git-bisect). Before each 
>>>>>>>>> test, I
>>>>>>>>> seeded the pubsub subscription with the exact same contents.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SDK version 2.25.0 (I had a build issue with 2.24.0 that I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't seem to resolve) and onward show a significant slowdown.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is a snippet of logging from v2.25.0:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:11:52 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:16:59 A.M.
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M*. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note that end-to-end, these steps took about *13 minutes*. With
>>>>>>>>> SDK 2.23.0 and identical user code, the same section of the pipeline 
>>>>>>>>> took *2
>>>>>>>>> seconds*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:39 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M.
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on what could be causing this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 9:53 AM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 2:09 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean startup delay? Is it the time that from you
>>>>>>>>>>> start the pipeline to the time that you notice the first output 
>>>>>>>>>>> record from
>>>>>>>>>>> PubSub?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes that's what I meant, the seemingly idle system waiting for
>>>>>>>>>> pubsub output despite data being in the subscription at pipeline 
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:50 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you try running direct runner with the option
>>>>>>>>>>>> `--experiments=use_deprecated_read`
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This seems to work for me, thanks for this! 👍
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like an instance of
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10670?focusedCommentId=17316858&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17316858
>>>>>>>>>>>> also reported in
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re6b0941a8b4951293a0327ce9b25e607cafd6e45b69783f65290edee%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We should rollback using the SDF wrapper by default because of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the usability and performance issues reported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:57 AM Evan Galpin <
>>>>>>>>>>>> evan.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m experiencing very slow performance and startup delay when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing a pipeline locally. I’m reading data from a Google PubSub
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscription as the data source, and before each pipeline 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that data is present in the subscription (readable from GCP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> console).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m seeing startup delay on the order of minutes with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner (5-10 min). Is that expected? I did find a Jira 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ticket[1] that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at first seemed related, but I think it has more to do with BQ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve run the pipeline with a debugger connected and confirmed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it’s minutes before the first DoFn in my pipeline receives 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can profile the direct runner to see what it’s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> churning
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/BEAM-4548
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

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