Hi Sandeep,

one more question, did you try to use --experiments=use_deprecated_read? If not, can you try that and check if it has any impact on the behavior you observe?

 Jan

On 11/18/21 01:41, Kathula, Sandeep wrote:

Hi Jan,

We are not adding any custom timestamp policy. We also don’t see backpressure in Flink UI. We are giving 5 task slots each with 3 CPU and 32 GB RAM. Its working if we give 10 task slots each with 3 CPU and 32 GB RAM. But that’s lot of resources for this load. We are trying to figure out why Beam is not able to handle 10,000 records per second with 5 task slots.

Thanks,

Sandeep

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*Date: *Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 3:11 AM
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*Subject: *Re: Beam on Flink runner not able to advance watermarks on a high load

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Hi Sandeep,

- dev@beam <mailto:[email protected]>

The watermark estimation itself should not be related to load. Can you please clarify, if

 a) you are using any custom timestamp policy?

 b) you see any backpressure in Flink's UI? Backpressure could - under some circumstances - cause delays in watermark propagation. It _might_ help to increase parallelism in that case.

Best,

 Jan

On 11/15/21 18:22, Kathula, Sandeep wrote:

    Hi,

        We are running a Beam application on Flink runner (Beam 2.29
    and Flink 1.12) which reads from Kafka and writes to S3  once
    every 5 minutes. My window and s3 writes looks like

    PCollection<GenericRecord>.apply("Batch Events",
    Window.<GenericRecord>into(

    FixedWindows.of(Duration.standardMinutes(5)))

    .triggering(AfterWatermark.pastEndOfWindow())

    .withAllowedLateness(Duration.ZERO,
    Window.ClosingBehavior.FIRE_ALWAYS)

    .discardingFiredPanes())

    .apply(FileIO.<GenericRecord>write()

    .via(ParquetIO.sink(schema))

    .to(outputPath)

    .withNumShards(5)

    .withNaming(new CustomFileNaming("snappy.parquet")));

    Resources allocated: 5 task slots each with 3 CPU and 32 GB RAM.
    We are using RocksDB as state backend and giving 50% of memory to
    off-heap.

    Its running fine with lighter loads. But when it gets heavier load
    from Kafka (7500 or more records per sec – each record around 7KB
    in size), we are seeing that no files are being written to S3.We
    are using AfterWatermark.pastEndOfWindow() which is trigerring
    only when the watermark reaches the end of window.

    After debugging we found that watermarks are not being advanced
    during heavy loads and as a result event time triggers after
    watermark reaches end of window because of which s3 writes will
    happen are not getting triggered. So the data is accumulating in
    off-heap which results in out of memory after some time.

    Can you please let us know why watermarks are not advancing under
    high load.

    Thanks,

    Sandeep

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