I see. Are there any options for Kafka 0.8? Thanks for the heads up.

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Raghu Angadi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> note that KafkaIO in Beam requires Kafka server version should be >= 0.9
> 
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:27 PM, David Desberg <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> Yeah, it’s setting it to the ingestion time. I will look into KafkaIO, as it 
> looks to provide exactly the functionality I want. I was wondering how to set 
> the timestamp correctly, at the source. Thank you for your help!
> 
> David
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Dan Halperin <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> In Beam pipelines, the event time is initially set on the source. Downstream 
>> code can make an event *later* just fine, but, making it *earlier* might 
>> move it before the current watermark. This would effective tur data that we 
>> believe is on-time into late data, and would in general be very bad! Allowed 
>> lateness is a feature that lets you move data earlier by a fixed amount, so 
>> if you have a tight bound on the time set by the source, this can sometimes 
>> help. But it's generally discouraged in favor of proper timestamps in the 
>> first place.
>> 
>> My guess is that UnboundedFlinkSource is using the *processing time*, aka 
>> current time when the element is received, rather than any event time 
>> provided by the element. It might be possible using that source to provide 
>> the element time.
>> 
>> Alternately, I think you should be using KafkaIO and setting the event time 
>> there using withTimestampFn: 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/sdks/java/io/kafka/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/kafka/KafkaIO.java#L136
>>  
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/sdks/java/io/kafka/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/kafka/KafkaIO.java#L136>
>> 
>> This way the elements will come into the system from Kafka with good 
>> timestamps, and you don't need a downstream DoFn to transport them back in 
>> time.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:15 PM, amir bahmanyari <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> I am doing pretty much the same thing  using Beam KafkaIO.
>> For the simple thing I am doing, its working as expected.
>> Can you provide the code how you are invoking/receiving from Kafka pls?
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> From: David Desberg <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:54 PM
>> Subject: Event time processing with Flink runner and Kafka source
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m struggling to get a basic Beam application setup, windowed based upon 
>> event time. I’m reading from an UnboundedFlinkSource of a FlinkKafkaConsumer 
>> to begin my pipeline. To set up event time processing, I applied a DoFn 
>> transformation (via ParDo) that calls ProcessContext.outputWithTimestamp 
>> using a timestamp extracted from each Kafka message. However, this results 
>> in an exception telling me to override getAllowedTimestampSkew, since 
>> evidently the messages are already timestamped and I am moving these 
>> timestamps back in time, but only shifting to the future is allowed. 
>> getAllowedTimestampSkew, however, is deprecated, and if I do override it and 
>> allow skew, the windowing I am applying later in the pipeline fails. I 
>> decided to backtrack and look at how the timestamps are even being assigned 
>> initially, since the Flink source has no concept of the structure of my 
>> messages and thus shouldn’t know how to assign any time at all. I found that 
>> it turns out that the pipeline runner marks each incoming message with 
>> ingestion time, in a manner that cannot be overridden/is not configurable 
>> (see 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/runners/flink/runner/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/translation/FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators.java#L273
>>  
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/runners/flink/runner/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/translation/FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators.java#L273>)
>> 
>> Why is this the case? Since part of the point of Beam is to allow event-time 
>> processing, I’m sure I’m missing something here. How can I correctly ingest 
>> message from Kafka and stamp them with event time, rather than ingestion 
>> time? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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