I always prefer to do decommission, but the issue here  is these servers
are on-prem, and disks die from time to time.
It's a very large cluster, in multiple datacenters around the world, so it
can take some time before we have a replacement, so we usually need to run
removenode in such cases.

Other than that there are no issues in the cluster, the load is reasonable,
and when this issue happens, following a removenode, this huge number of
NTR is what I see, weird thing it's only on some nodes.
I have been running with a very small
native_transport_max_concurrent_requests_in_bytes  setting for a few days
now on some nodes (few mb's compared to the default 0.8 of a 60gb heap), it
looks like it's good enough for the app, will roll it out to the entire dc
and test removal again.


On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:51 AM Kane Wilson <k...@raft.so> wrote:

> It's unlikely to help in this case, but you should be using nodetool
> decommission on the node you want to remove rather than removenode from
> another node (and definitely don't force removal)
>
> native_transport_max_concurrent_requests_in_bytes defaults to 10% of the
> heap, which I suppose depending on your configuration could potentially
> result in a smaller number of concurrent requests than previously. It's
> worth a shot setting it higher to see if the issue is related. Is this the
> only issue you see on the cluster? I assume load on the cluster is still
> low/reasonable and the only symptom you're seeing is the increased NTR
> requests?
>
> raft.so - Cassandra consulting, support, and managed services
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:47 PM Gil Ganz <gilg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey,
>> We have a 3.11.9 cluster (recently upgraded from 2.1.14), and after the
>> upgrade we have an issue when we remove a node.
>>
>> The moment I run the removenode command, 3 servers in the same dc start
>> to have a high amount of pending native-transport-requests (getting to
>> around 1M) and clients are having issues due to that. We are using vnodes
>> (32), so I I don't see why I would have 3 servers busier than others (RF is
>> 3 but I don't see why it will be related).
>>
>> Each node has a few TB of data, and in the past we were able to remove a
>> node in ~half a day, today what happens is in the first 1-2 hours we have
>> these issues with some nodes, then things go quite, remove is still running
>> and clients are ok, a few hours later the same issue is back (with same
>> nodes as the problematic ones), and clients have issues again, leading us
>> to run removenode force.
>>
>> Reducing stream throughput and number of compactors has helped
>> to mitigate the issues a bit, but we still have this issue of pending
>> native-transport requests getting to insane numbers and clients suffering,
>> eventually causing us to run remove force. Any idea?
>>
>> I saw since 3.11.6 there is a parameter
>> native_transport_max_concurrent_requests_in_bytes, looking into setting
>> this, perhaps this will prevent the amount of pending tasks to get so high.
>>
>> Gil
>>
>

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