Hello David, you are right that Hibernate (to some degrees) has become a de-facto standard when it comes down to object-relational mapping. This is mainly due to quite some books being available and the documentation to be in a far better shape than Castor JDO's currently is.
Having said that, I know that there's quite some companies (mainly bigger ones) that are currently looking for an alternative to Hibernate (and jBoss) due to mainly license and legal issues. In other words, with the immediate event of EJB 3.0 implementations, I personally think that the market will see some shift in the near future. Hibernate might still be the first one to offer EJB 3.0 compliance (or JPA compliance, to be more precise), but with their usual controversial way favo(u)r might turn against them .. or already has. Let me just get one more point across. Since we have been shipping 1.0 milestone builds, the amount of feedback (and regression reports) has been eve increasing. Personally, I see this as a sign that a move towards a 1.0 release is about psychology as well. There's quite some companies out there that plainly refuse to use any software that is pre-1.0. Which is a shame given the number of years we have been on 0.9.x .. ;-). Having said that, of course I stand to be called biased to some degree .. ;-). Werner David wrote: > Werner, > > About your problema I have no doubts I am using Hibernate as O/R-Mapping > tools, nevertheless I am using Castor for unmarshall and marshall > process such feature on Hibernate is experimental and quite limited. > > Hibernate nowdays become a defacto O/R-mapping tool standar. JDO has no > friendly implementation, tools, etc, at least as far as I know. > > David > > */Werner Guttmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Well, here's some food for thought from my *personal* (biased .. > ;-)) perspective. > > A) We are going to move 1.0 (finally) quite soon. > B) We are (fairly) feature complete. > C) We have a very business-friendly license (unlike Hibernate). > D) We will provide Spring integration quite soon (like it exists for > Hiberate and other ORMs). > E) We are going to provide EJB 3.0 compliance (read an JPA > implementation) soon after the 1.0 release (and hopefully before the > 1.1 release). > F) Castor JDO is not enganged into 'political wars'. Excuse the lack > of fantasy here, but I could not think about a better wording rigth now. > > I do reckognize that we lack documentation in all places, but as > there's no commercial framework (and organization) behind Castor > (JDO), this project relies on its committers (and user community); I > would not call the latter a disadvantage, thoug .. ;-). > > Justt my 0.02 (Euro) cents worth .. > > Werner > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Wannamaker > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Donnerstag, 09. März 2006 15:22 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [castor-user] Castor vs Hibernate > > > > Sorry Werner I had put those messages somewhere where I > > wouldn't forget them and then forgot where I'd put them. I > > found them. > > > > Personally I use castor at work and at home(work). I like > > castor and find it fairly easy and straight forward however > > documentation was always lacking especially good examples > > unless of course you get the unit tests and go over them. > > > > I have NO experience with hibernate at all so I can't really > > do a comparison I just thought that possibly since it's one > > of your biggest competitors that someone might have some > > thoughts or know of some articles that have already done > > comparisons of the two. > > > > A group in our organization created something similar to > > hibernate/castorJDO. However it's kind of slow and > > cumbersome to use, although it will create database tables > > for you from a definition. ;-) That said we want to switch > > to something that is a little more common place, IE: > > castorJDO or hibernate. I believe others will be thinking > > hibernate because, there's books about it and yadda, yadda, yadda. > > > > So I was hoping to provide an alternative to hibernate, which > > is castorJDO however I don't really have time to do a > > comparison of the two and was hoping someone already had or > > might know of someone who had. > > > > I found my original emails but if someone would like to > > comment or if you know of any articles? > > > > TIA > > --ekiM > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Werner Guttmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: March 9, 2006 3:14 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [castor-user] Castor vs Hibernate > > > > Mike, > > > > rather than trying to answer your general question (which I > > believe has happened on this very list a few weeks ago ... > > ;-)), why not confront us with specific questions/concerns > > that you'd like to see addressed ? > > > > Werner > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Mike Wannamaker > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Mittwoch, 08. März 2006 22:19 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [castor-user] Castor vs Hibernate Hi, > > > > I may have asked this before, but I was wondering if people > > on this list could comment on differences good/bad of castor > > vs hibernate. Especially with regards to JDO? > > > > --ekiM > > Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't > > mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny > > iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the > > rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll > > raed it wouthit porbelm. 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