Andrus thank you for this suggestion. I notice that I am actually not 
interested in the update/insert SQL on commit to solve my problem. but existing 
DataObjects themselves and their interconnection. backup restore the whole 
database would be a solution, yes but I would like to only transfer parts of 
the actual database. I would like to use the business logic already coded to 
get only those related records for transfer. I do realize that this is not a 
update/change operation but a selection/query. I would look for something that 
creates an insert statement for an existing DataObject. I think this is easy to 
do manually with the information avaiable in the cayenne mapping info. (sorry 
for thinking aloud here and posting before thinking)

Tobias

Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tracing all changes can be accomplished by other means, e.g. via  
recording all GraphDiffs before commit (GraphDiffs are the internal  
format Cayenne uses to store object changes, that are later  
transformed to SQL).

However I'd recommend investigating a DB-level backup solution, as a  
much more robust alternative. E.g. take a periodic production data  
dump, load it to the dev DB, then run some SQL script to make sure the  
data is appropriately massaged for the dev environment. This should  
work for the databases up to a certain size. Of course if you have  
terabytes of data, then it won't scale (or require a more fine grained  
approach to backup creation).

Andrus


On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Tobias SCHOESSLER wrote:
> Hi Andrus, I did in fact forget about that.
>
> I was looking for an easy way to recreate parts of the object  
> network to transfer between stages of our application. E.g. create  
> SQL for a data set to insert it in the development db for testing.
>
> Tobias
>
>
> Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thursday, 21 February 2008 14:38
> Please respond to
> [email protected]
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> To
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> cc
> Subject
> Re: how to get update/insert SQL without committing to db
>
>
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>
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Could you elaborate a bit on how are you going to use this SQL? SQL
> generated by Cayenne is in a PreparedStatement format, so it will not
> be usable for say manual execution from a SQL client.
>
> Andrus
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Tobias SCHOESSLER wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there a way to get the update/insert SQL statements ( e.g. as a
> > String ) that cayenne would execute with a commit,  without actually
> > committing to the db?
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > Tobias
>
>

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