Ari, we may propose to users select schema that he want - maybe somebody
want tro use ActiveRecord. But classic Cayenne architecture will be used
anyway. But if user want - he may use ActiveRecord. From my perspective -
Cayenne - best framework for add this feature, and for RoR fans it may be
very useful. From my estimates - we spent on development ~ 1 week, if
during year this feature do not will be used by anybody - we may remove it.
What do you think?


2012/12/23 Aristedes Maniatis <[email protected]>

> On 20/12/12 4:18am, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> Now in Ruby (which I barely know) I suppose ActiveRecord is such a great
>> RAD technology, because when you control the DB, you can sort of avoid (or
>> minimize) the*mapping*  step.
>>
>
> To an extent. ActiveRecord (and most of Rails) is configuration by
> convention. So, primary keys are always named "id". Foreign keys have
> special names pointing to the table. You can add something similar to
> annotations to the persisted entities if you want to change the defaults.
>
> Interestingly, there is still a schema.rb which looks just like a
> dictionary for the database entities (including indexes). Rails generates
> it for you from the database as you work, but it is still there.
>
>
>  In Cayenne you still need to do the mapping. Once you did it, our current
>> or planned API could be as friendly as it gets.
>>
>
> There is a lot to be learnt from ActiveRecord's fluent API. So easy to
> read and very concise. Some of that clean API comes from the abilities of
> Ruby itself (which Java cannot accomplish).
>
> But I can't quite see the point of hiding the concept of Contexts from the
> user. Most users new to Cayenne will understand what 'database transaction'
> means and quickly understand Context as a similar idea. If we hide context
> from the user in this API, does this throw an exception? Or is
> localObject() implicit in every setter?
>
> Artist a = Artist.newInstance();
> a.setName("Bob");
> a.save()
>
> Painting p = Painting.newInstance();
> p.setArtist(a);
> p.save();
>
>
>
> Ari
>
>
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