Hello Markus;

Are you already using Cayenne with this application in some way? If so, how are you creating the first ServerRuntime? If you are not using Cayenne with this application yet, can you explain a bit more about your situation; Are you using Spring framework or some other DI framework at all? Are you wanting one ObjectContext per request-response cycle?

Regards;

On 23/12/14 2:13 am, Markus Reich wrote:
As I'm using cayenne in a JSP environment, where would be the best place to
create the 2nd runtime? I'm not sure how to do it right/best way?
I just know how it's done in a desktop app
ServerRuntime runtime = new ServerRuntime("cayenne-MII-MIP.xml");
Maybe there is a way to copy the existing runtime?

Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> schrieb am Fri Dec 19 2014 at
11:24:29:

Yeah, you'd start 2 runtimes, and rename a subset of DbEntities in one of
them to add "_A".

Andrus


On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Markus Reich <markus.re...@markusreich.at>
wrote:

ad 1., yes it's a multiuser web app
ad 2., it's just a subset, not all tables of the schema have archive
tables
ad 3., archive tables have a postfix _A in the tablename and are in the
same schema, but it would be not problem to transfer them to another
scheme

The idea with the two runtimes sounds interesting


Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> schrieb am Fri Dec 19 2014 at
09:45:08:

A few more things I need to ask:

* I assume it is a multi-user app?
* If a user checks the checkbox, you switch *all* entities to the
archive
tables, not just a subset of entities?
* How do you distinguish between regular and archive tables? Are
archives
in a separate schema, or in the same schema, but using different naming
conventions?

But here is also an idea of the solution, that can be further tweaked
depending on the answers. You need to start 2 ServerRuntime's (I assume
you
are on Cayenne 3.1 / 4.0 here). One mapped to access regular tables, and
another - the archive tables. And depending on a given user state, you
allocate them an ObjectContext from the corresponding runtime.

Andrus


On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Markus Reich <
markus.re...@markusreich.at>
wrote:

Hi Andrus,

the switch is durring runtime, so it's not defined at start up. The
trigger
is e.g. a checkbox in the ui where the user can decide if he want to
read
from archive. One idea was to create a view over archive and real
table,
because it's only read only necessary.


Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> schrieb am Fri Dec 19 2014 at
08:22:26:

I guess the answer depends on what "easily" means. So a few questions
to
clarify the scenario:

When you start an app, do you already know whether it will read from
regular or archive tables? If not, what event triggers the switch in
the
running app? Is this for all sessions or just specific users?

Andrus

On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Markus Reich <
markus.re...@markusreich.at>
wrote:

Hi,

I need some hints for a very special issue :-)
We have archived old entries of our tables to shadow tables, which
have
exactly the same columns structure as the source table.

No we need to have a possibility to switch easily between real and
shadowtable.
Maybe someone already is/was facing such a constellation?

thx
Meex









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