The use case is as follows.

I have a large collection of objects which I want some function to be executed 
on. I want to use multiple threads to do this, so AFAIK I have to use separate 
ObjectContexts per thread like in EOF. So, I will then instantiate those 
objects in the per-thread contexts, do the processing, but then the wrapper 
function should return the entire collection of processed objects in the 
original context that they were in at the beginning.

With EOF, I have a snapshot cache that will contain the changed attributes, but 
the EO instances in the original context have their original values. So, I will 
then call ec.faultForGlobalID() to have them refaulted from the snapshot cache, 
avoiding to refetch 100.000 objects from db.

I suppose using a shared cache would make the problem obsolete, as those 
objects would receive changed attributes automatically, but I'm still on the 
fence whether or not to use a shared cache, because it's a major behavioural 
difference to EOF and I still have to think about that while migrating my 
project.

Maik


> Am 15.02.2017 um 15:49 schrieb Ken Anderson <ken.ander...@amphorainc.com>:
> 
> Yes, use the objectID to pass around, but on the receiving end, you should 
> turn it into a fault and release it into the wild.  Then, if some code needs 
> it, the fault fires, otherwise – no DB activity.
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> On 2/15/17, 10:47 AM, "Amedeo Mantica" <amedeomant...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>    I would just use the ObjectId
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2017, at 16:45, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>> 
>> It can be useful in some cases—one example is if you want to be able to pass 
>> objects around in an API without triggering a DB fetch unless they are 
>> actually used.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15. feb. 2017, at 15:28, Amedeo Mantica <amedeomant...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> no worries, but I cannot understand your goal, why do you want to get the 
>>> fault ?
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Feb 2017, at 16:25, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Ken, but the immediate fetch performed by Cayenne.objectForPk is 
>>>> precisely what I’d like to avoid.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> - hugi
>>>> 
>>>> S: Amedeo, sorry about calling you “Amadeo” in my last post. I have been 
>>>> properly lambasted.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15. feb. 2017, at 15:20, Ken Anderson <ken.ander...@amphorainc.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> dataObject = (DataObject) Cayenne.objectForPK(getObjectContext(), 
>>>>> MyEntity.class, oid);
>>>>> 
>>>>> But it will do the fetch if it’s not already in cache.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken Anderson
>>>>> CTO Amphora, Inc.
>>>>> Mobile:   +1 914 262 8540
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.amphorainc.com <http://www.amphorainc.com/>
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/15/17, 9:59 AM, "Hugi Thordarson" <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Amadeo, but I ended up creating a method that looks like this. It 
>>>>> would be nice to get some feedback on it, if I’m violating any Cayenne 
>>>>> Commandments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> /**
>>>>> * @return An existing object or fault if registered with the OC, 
>>>>> otherwise creates a new hollow object based on the given ObjectId.
>>>>> */
>>>>> public static Persistent faultForObjectId( ObjectContext oc, ObjectId 
>>>>> objectId ) {
>>>>> Persistent object = (Persistent) oc.getGraphManager().getNode( objectId );
>>>>> 
>>>>> if( object == null ) {
>>>>> ClassDescriptor descriptor = 
>>>>> oc.getEntityResolver().getClassDescriptor(objectId.getEntityName());
>>>>> 
>>>>> object = (Persistent) descriptor.createObject();
>>>>> 
>>>>> object.setPersistenceState(PersistenceState.HOLLOW);
>>>>> object.setObjectContext(oc);
>>>>> object.setObjectId(objectId);
>>>>> 
>>>>> oc.getGraphManager().registerNode(objectId, object);
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> return object;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> - hugi
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15. feb. 2017, at 14:41, Amedeo Mantica <amedeomant...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> may be you want invalidateObject ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2017, at 14:15, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I need to get a fault for an ObjectId from an ObjectContext. How would 
>>>>>>> I do this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t see any public API for this—the implementation of createFault 
>>>>>>> in CayenneContext seems to get me halfway there, but it will not return 
>>>>>>> an existing fault, only create new ones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> - hugi
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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