Yes I added them to the relationship - I just assume that if I iterate through 
the data markers on the relationship including the new ones it'll hit the 
database a bunch, loading in the faults as I look for isVisible=true

I'm porting this from WebObjects and looking at the old code they passed the 
new data markers in and added them to the return list pulled from the database. 

I was wondering if there's a way to get, for example, non-persisted entries of 
a certain type. I'll look at the api.

If I have to I'll just pull them all out of the database and filter them. 
There's only a small number of users with hundreds of data markers - most 
people only have a few. 

Rob

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> On Jun 21, 2026, at 23:26, Michael Gentry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Just curious where your non-persisted DataMarkerEntry objects are lying
> around. I'm assuming you haven't added them to your dataMarkerEntries
> relationship yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> mrg
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 11:25 AM Robert A. Decker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a to-many relationship where I really only want to pull out a few
>> out of hundreds. In this case, it's those with is_visible set to true. I
>> never actually work with them when is_visible is false, but I can't delete
>> them either because they audit changes.
>> 
>> person.dataMarkerEntries - this is modelled in the modeller and pulls all
>> data marker entries from the database. I don't want this.
>> person.visibleDataMarkerEntries  - this is my method and it has a query
>> that only pulls out visible data marker entries from the database:
>> 
>> ObjectSelect<DataMarkerEntry> query =
>> ObjectSelect.query(DataMarkerEntry.class)
>> .where(DataMarkerEntry.IS_VISIBLE.isTrue())
>> ....
>> 
>> However, the visibleDataMarkerEntries won't include non-persisted (new)
>> data marker entries. But if I call dataMarkerEntries to see the
>> non-persisted data marker entries then will it pull all of them out of the
>> database too?
>> 
>> Is there a way for me in visibleDataMarkerEntries to also include
>> non-persisted data marker entries off of my personr instance?
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 

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