There is gonna be some partitioning of the data and using a faster view server might help to. The only issue I have left is that I can't use too many views because storing the generated views of that many doucuments will take lots of disk space. Than again disks are cheap and easy to add and acceptable trade off for fast queries. And if I use a key of like doc.type + doc.experiment + doc.genome_position than that could also limit the need for more than one view.

Tom

Op 4-mrt-2010 om 10:33 heeft km <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:\

Hi,

No it would be fast.
All the documents are indexed as per views in the database.
temporary views will have to search each and every document in the database. but permanebt views (saved views) will have to only do that for the first time. That first time, couchdb would start searching all docs and indexes
according to the view  in the database.
Once indexed, accessing the same view will instantly retrieve results.
(This first time indexing would take a bit of time if ur database has
billions of docs- probably u can also partition them into different
databases according to category)

Also it would update view indexes if new documents added/removed
automatically -without changing the views.

Its like having static views with dynamic data.

Krishna
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Tom Sante <[email protected]> wrote:

Indeed using "type" could be the alternative to mongoDB collections. But my question is if I have billions of documents in the DB would this make view generation very slow and take up lot of disk space just to be able to search
for all probes with a certain experiment_id. Like I said the data is
structured in experiments so almost all queries and changes to the data will be within an experiment with no need to act on the huge amount of probes
from the other experiments.
Thanks,
Tom

Op 4-mrt-2010 om 08:35 heeft km <[email protected]> het volgende
geschreven:

Hi,

You could have an additional key in the document identifying it as probe -
eg "type" (key) with value  "probe" like this:

{
    "type":"probe".
    "probe_id" : 1234567890,
    "experiment_id" : 1234567890,
    "raw_value" : 0.43524,
    "analysis": { "cbs" : 0.436, "CBS+GLAD" : 0.4356 }
}

so all your probe documents would contain a key called "type" set to
"probe". you can identify only these documents with this key.
Now when u design a view to search probe documents alone, u could use a
simple filter statement like this:
if(doc.type=='probe'){ do something ...}
this will only search/index probe type documents.

NOTE: "type" is not a user defined key just like any other key - u can use
anyother name for it !

U might have other types of documents for which the type keyword will
differ
accordingly.
Here there is no need to explicitly define a collection as in Mongodb.
All JSON documents could be stored in a single database.

HTH,
Krishna
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Tom Sante <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi

The data is now stored in a mysql table with about a billion (1000
million)
rows.
These rows are the data of a genetic test (arrayCGH) and build up like
this:

Every experiment (a few thousand of them total) contains measurements of
about 180000 genetic probes. This raw data will be analyzed and the
values
run through different algorithms, so every probe needs to store more than
1
value after the analysis is done. The values of different analysis are
now
stored in columns in that table making it a pain if we have to add a analysis to the table not yet part of the existing columns. This is why a
schema free document based DB is probably a better fit.
The initial idea was to give each probe a separate document, and when the original value is transform to an other value store this in the same
document.

{
    "probe_id" : 1234567890,
    "experiment_id" : 1234567890,
    "raw_value" : 0.43524,
    "analysis": { "cbs" : 0.436, "CBS+GLAD" : 0.4356 }
}

Once added to the database almost all changes to the data will be
contained
within an experiment.

MongoDB has something like collections that would be a appropriate
abstraction ~ experiment. But in couchdb I would have to add all these
probe
documents in 1 big database without collections. So if I only make
changes
to probes within an experiment this would influence the views of all the
other billions document in the db. Because of the large number of
documents
it would be good to know beforehand what the implications are of this
performance wise?

Any suggestions are welcome.

Tom


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