npm is mostly attachments and I haven't seen any issues so far.

I wish there was a better way to replicate attachments atomically for a single 
revision but if there is, I don't know about it.

It's probably a huge JSON operation and it sucks, but I don't have to parse it 
in node.js, I just pipe() the body right along.

-Mikeal

On Sep 14, 2011, at September 14, 20118:42 AM, Adam Kocoloski wrote:

> Hi Mikeal, I just took a quick peek at your code. It looks like you handle 
> attachments by inlining all of them into the JSON representation of the 
> document. Does that ever cause problems when dealing with the ~100 MB 
> attachments in the npm repo?
> 
> I've certainly seen my fair share of problems with attachment replication in 
> CouchDB 1.0.x. I have a sneaking suspicion that there are latent bugs related 
> to incorrect determinations of Content-Length under various compression 
> scenarios.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
> 
>> My replicator is fairly young so I think calling it "reliable" might be a 
>> little misleading.
>> 
>> It does less, I don't ever attempt to cache the high watermark (last seq 
>> written) and start over from there. If the process crashes just start over 
>> from scratch. This can lead to a delay after restart but I find that it's 
>> much simpler and more reliable on failure.
>> 
>> It's also simpler because it doesn't have to content with being an http 
>> client and a client of the internal couchdb erlang API. It just proxies 
>> requests from one couch to another.
>> 
>> While I'm sure there are bugs that I haven't found yet in it, I can say that 
>> it replicates the npm repository quite well and I'm using it in production.
>> 
>> -Mikeal
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2011, at September 13, 201111:44 AM, Max Ogden wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> From what I understand the current state of the replicator (as of 1.1) is
>>> that for certain types of collections of documents it can be somewhat
>>> fragile. In the case of the node.js package repository, http://npmjs.org,
>>> there are many relatively large (~100MB) documents that would sometimes
>>> throw errors or timeout during replication and crash the replicator, at
>>> which point the replicator would restart and attempt to pick up where it
>>> left off. I am not an expert in the internals of the replicator but
>>> apparently the cumulative time required for the replicator to repeatedly
>>> crash and then subsequently relocate itself in _changes feed in the case of
>>> replicating the node package manager was making the built in couch
>>> replicator unusable for the task.
>>> 
>>> Two solutions exist that I know of. There is a new replicator in trunk (not
>>> to be confused with the _replicator db from 1.1 -- it is still using the old
>>> replicator algorithms) and there is also a more reliable replicator written
>>> in node.js https://github.com/mikeal/replicate that was was written
>>> specifically to replicate the node package repository between hosting
>>> providers.
>>> 
>>> Additionally it may be useful if you could describe the 'fingerprint' of
>>> your documents a bit. How many documents are in the failing databases? are
>>> the documents large or small? do they have many attachments? how large is
>>> your _changes feed?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Chris Stockton
>>> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> We now have about 150 dbs that are refusing to replicate with random
>>>> crashes, which provide really zero debug information. The error is db
>>>> not found, but I know its available. Does anyone know how can I
>>>> trouble shoot this? Do we just have to many databases replicating for
>>>> couchdb to handle? 4000 is a small number for the massive hardware
>>>> these are running on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Chris
> 
> 

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