This is again extremely helpful...thanks... MVCC says... Hey...while you're writing... "Every one is still pointing to the old one for reads"... But the moment its done... Look at this new one" if it doesn't do that it has to do something about simultaneous read write right?
Also.. Does bigcouch return stale data... Ever?... Like the example I described above?... This mail thread really needs to be in a doc somewhere BTW.. Again many thanks On Mar 26, 2014 10:45 PM, "Benoit Chesneau" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thursday, March 27, 2014, Stanley Iriele <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Also... Jens... You said couchbase doesn't have MVCC ? All docs say That > it > > uses couchDB MVCC append only under the good on a single node... Could > you > > elaborate a tad on what you mean by doesn't have MVCC?... Also for the > > couchDB advocates...I think discussions about this are incredibly helpful > > for all parties involved.. > > > > couchabase has no revision tree / docs. the mvcc has been removed to not > impact the performances. > > - benoit > > > On Mar 26, 2014 2:58 PM, "Stanley Iriele" <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks again Jens for the reply... Couchbase has documentation on > > > this...and gobs of marketing... But bigcouch does not... > > > > > > In bigcouch...all nodes can handle every request... But let's say a > node > > > cannot reach the nodes that have a key..like node A knows it needs to > > read > > > from nodes B and C but cannot reach them.... But has a copy of the data > > > locally but was given r=2 for consent read... What does bigcouch do? > > > > > > Potentially return stale data?.. Throw an error?.... > > > > > > I know that bigcouch is based on the dynamo white paper... But so is > > > Cassandra...and riak and you cab at least find out the answers to these > > > questions with a little googling. Again I'm eternally grateful for the > > > responses I'm getting I just wish there more docs....like the couchDB > > docs > > > page that even has a CAP theorem chart..(which is freaking awesome).. > > > On Mar 26, 2014 12:24 PM, "Jens Alfke" <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Stanley Iriele <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Why would you say that couchbase scales better?... > > >> > > >> That's getting way off-topic for this list, but > http://couchbase.comhas > > >> a bunch of marketing materials and white papers and such, and we have > > sales > > >> engineers you can talk to if you really want to dive into it. But as I > > >> said, Couchbase Server and BigCouch are very different. > > >> > > >> > And does bigcouch ever return conflicts to the user? How is the > "which > > >> write won" problem solved? > > >> > > >> AFAIK BigCouch's document/revision/conflict model is identical to > > >> CouchDBs. MVCC, revision IDs, revision trees, conflicts represented as > > >> branched trees, conflict resolution by deleting unwanted branches, > etc. > > >> > > >> --Jens > > > > > > > > >
