I got your previous message just moments before I sent this one, and read it 
afterwards. 

I had no idea there was so many specs on something like this, but it makes 
sense there are. 

Kindest Regards,

Bill Stephenson



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> On 2020-03-12 13:28, Bill Stephenson wrote:
>> I’ve recently pointed a few people on Reddit to this mailing list who were 
>> asking questions there. A forum would probably be a good thing to have.
>> I’m not familiar with Discourse but it looks pretty simple to spin up a 
>> digital ocean vps. 
>> <https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/discourse?utm_campaign=marketplace&utm_source=marketplace#api-creation>
>>   “Mail-in-a-box <https://mailinabox.email/>” makes it pretty easy to set up 
>> an email server. DigitalOcean probably isn’t the best platform for that. I 
>> have one I setup there but it took some time to get the larger mail 
>> providers to unblock it. That’s probably the case no matter how you approach 
>> that though. Using a 3rd party service like MailChimp might be easier but 
>> would probably cost more.
>> Unfortunately I’m not in a position to donate any cash to this but I could 
>> spend some time on getting Discourse up and running on a DO vps if that’s a 
>> viable option.
> 
> Please don't take this step. Apache Infra needs to be aware of what's going 
> on, and fully support whatever approach is taken. Our community cannot be 
> seen to be "going around them" without some severe backlash.
> 
> As I mentioned in my other email, let's work together with them to make this 
> happen.
> 
> -Joan
> 
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Bill Stephenson
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Garren Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> The CouchDB slack channel has been a real success with lots of people
>>> asking for help and getting involved. The main issue is that it is not
>>> searchable so we often get people asking the same questions over and over.
>>> The user mailing list is great in that sense that if you have subscribed to
>>> it you have a searchable list of questions and answers. However, it's
>>> really not user-friendly and judging by the fact that it has very low user
>>> participation I'm guessing most people prefer to use slack to ask questions.
>>> 
>>> I've been really impressed with how the FoundationDB forum[1] and the rust
>>> internal forum work [2]. I find them easy to use and really encourage
>>> participation. I would like to propose that we move our user and dev
>>> discussion to Discourse or a forum that works as well as Discourse. I think
>>> that would make it really easy for users of CouchDB to look up answers to
>>> questions and get involved in the development discussion.
>>> 
>>> I haven't checked yet, but I'm sure we could get all discourse threads to
>>> automatically email back to the user and dev mailing list so that we still
>>> fulfill our Apache requirements.
>>> 
>>> I know its a big step away from what we're used to with our mailing lists,
>>> but I think it would definitely open up our community.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Garren
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] https://forums.foundationdb.org/
>>> [2] https://internals.rust-lang.org/

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