Hi Bob, Ok thanks, interesting. Can you tell me when 4.0 is planned to be released please?
Thanks Paul On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 15:19, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > I think that’s reasonable though do note that compaction is also for > performance, even if you never update or delete a document, as couchdb > defers rebalancing the b+tree disk structures until then (i.e, couchdb > isn’t adhering to the b+tree algorithm from literature). > > Left uncompacted the lookup/insert performance will drop from roughly > O(log n) to O(n) over time (though only as a consequence of writing > documents). > > None of what I’ve said will apply in CouchDB 4.0 (compaction no longer > required there) > > B (short for Bob) > > > On 19 Aug 2021, at 11:32, Paul Milner <pauljmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi B (?? ;-) ) > > > > I have a log database that could encounter high frequency updates and > > deletes. It's not required to be read by multiple users, but will be > > updated by all users. So rather than compacting it, which at certain > > frequencies of updates could lead to possible race conditions (thinking > of > > extremes), I was going to do the following steps: > > > > 1) Switch the active log to a new database > > 2) Copy the old database without orphans/history to the new database > > 3) delete the old database > > > > I would toggle databases as needed. > > > > Best regards > > Paul > > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:24, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi Paul, > >> > >> We welcome feedback on why the automatic compaction system (in its > default > >> configuration or custom) is not appropriate for you. > >> > >> B. > >> > >>> On 19 Aug 2021, at 05:29, Paul Milner <pauljmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Adam > >>> > >>> Thanks for the feedback. I was actually struggling with which options > to > >> set per channel and what to set them to. Anyway after more thought, I’ve > >> decided on a manual approach as I need it to be more custom than > automatic. > >>> > >>> But thanks again > >>> I appreciate it. > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>>> On 18 Aug 2021, at 20:01, Adam Kocoloski <kocol...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Paul, sorry to hear you’re finding it a challenge to configure. > The > >> default configuration described in the documentation does give you an > >> example of how things are set up: > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://docs.couchdb.org/en/3.1.1/maintenance/compaction.html#channel-configuration > >>>> > >>>> Cross-referenced from that section you can find the full configuration > >> reference that describes all the supported configuration keys at the > >> channel level: > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://docs.couchdb.org/en/3.1.1/config/compaction.html#config-compactions > >>>> > >>>> The general idea is that you create [smoosh.<channelname>] > >> configuration blocks with whatever settings you deem appropriate to > match a > >> certain set of files and prioritize them, and then use the [smoosh] > block > >> to activate those channels. > >>>> > >>>> Can you say a little more about what you’re finding lacking in the > >> docs? Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> Adam > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:58 AM, Paul Milner <pauljmil...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm looking at the maintenance of my databases and how I could > >> implement > >>>>> tools to do that. Smoosh seems to be the main option, but I'm > >> struggling to > >>>>> set it up as the documentation seems a bit limited. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have only really found this: > >>>>> > >>>>> 5.1. Compaction — Apache CouchDB® 3.1 Documentation > >>>>> < > >> > https://docs.couchdb.com/en/3.1.1/maintenance/compaction.html#database-compaction > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I could do it manually but wanted to explore this first and was > >> wondering > >>>>> if there are any smoosh examples about, that could help me on my way? > >>>>> > >>>>> If anyone could point me in the right direction please, I would > >> appreciate > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks a lot > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Paul > >>>> > >> > >> > >