Welcome to the cTAKES community.

Q1 – some people use the longest span.
Q2 &Q3 – can you just use the text from the dictionary “Malignant neoplasm of 
liver (disorder)“.  Alternatively you could modify cTAKES to save the text of 
the words that it matches when it is performing dictionary lookup. I would 
guess there is a term in the UMLS dictionary with the same code as Malignant 
neoplasm of liver (disorder)  that just has the words “cancer of liver”, but 
there isn’t anything in cTAKES to give that to you just through a configuration 
change.

For “cancer of colon, liver and lung“, can you look at the chunk  tag for 
liver.  If it’s in a separate noun phrase (NP) from “cancer of colon” that 
would account for why cancer is not getting tied to liver in that case (but 
wouldn’t account for why the chunker is creating as a separate noun phrase)

-- James

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Dennis Lee Hon Kit
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Concept annotation questions

Hi Everyone,

We are new to cTakes so please bear with our questions.  We are using cTakes to 
annotate things like encounter diagnoses and referral notes and are especially 
interested with the SNOMED CT encodings.  But we are not sure how to make sense 
of all the outputs.

Example #1

In the example below, “cancer of colon, lung and liver” has been encoded with 
SNOMED CT and additional concepts that do not apply have been removed (e.g., 
general “cancer” concept, lung, colon and liver structures, etc).   They have 
been plotted out by the begin/end positions.  If the terms to do not align, its 
probably because the email only accepts plain text and a mono-spaced font is 
not the default.

cancer of colon, lung and liver
cancer of colon, lung and liver   93870000|Malignant neoplasm of liver 
(disorder)|
cancer of colon, lung             363358000|Malignant tumor of lung (disorder)|
cancer of colon                   363406005|Malignant tumor of colon (disorder)|

Question (1) – We had to do quite a bit of post-processing to remove inactive 
concepts, subtype concepts, concepts that are part of the defining attributes, 
etc.  Are there a set of guidelines to help sort out the CUI or SNOMED CT codes 
that have been identified?
Question (2) – How can we determine that “93870000|Malignant neoplasm of liver 
(disorder)|” refers to “cancer of liver” as opposed to using the begin/end 
string, which points to “cancer of colon, lung and liver”?  Certainly we can 
try to do additional parsing but there are a lot of different scenarios to take 
into account.
Question (3) – This relates to question 2, are we able to identify the original 
terms that were used for the concept matching or the exact description that was 
returned in the UMLS?  While the CUI is helpful, the CUI can refer to tens or 
even hundreds of descriptions.

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Example #2

Switching the position of colon, lung and liver can result in different 
encodings.  Once again, after removing additional concepts not needed (i.e., 
“cancer” and “colon structure”), we get the following.  What happened to liver 
and lung cancer?

cancer of colon, liver and lung
cancer of colon                   363406005|Malignant tumor of colon (disorder)|
                           lung   39607008|Lung structure (body structure)|

We have more questions but will start with these.  Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Dennis

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