I can see both sides. But Ted is right, this won't hurt any thing from a
performance perspective, even if they put War and Peace in there 30 times,
that's 100mb of information to serve. People may choose to use formatting
languages like Markup or something. I do think we should have a limit so we
know what happens if someone tries to break that limit (from a security
perspective) but we could set that quite high, and then just test putting
data that exceeds that as a unit test.



On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of War and Peace is only 3MB.
>
> Let people document however they want. Don't over-optimize for problems
> that have never occurred.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Kunal Khatua <kkha...@mapr.com> wrote:
>
> > It might be, incase someone begins to dump a massive design doc into the
> > comment field for a view's JSON.
> >
> >
> > I'm also not sure about how this information can be consumed. If it is
> > through CLI, either we rely on the SQLLine shell to trim the output, or
> not
> > worry at all. I'm assuming we'd also probably want something like a
> >
> > DESCRIBE VIEW ...
> >
> > to be enhanced to something like
> >
> > DESCRIBE VIEW WITH COMMENTARY ...
> >
> >
> > A 1KB field is quite generous IMHO. That's more than 7 tweets to describe
> > something ! [?]
> >
> >
> > Kunal Khatua
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 12:56:44 PM
> > To: user
> > Subject: Re: Discussion: Comments in Drill Views
> >
> > It it really necessary to put a technical limit in to prevent people from
> > OVER-documenting views?
> >
> >
> > What is the last time you saw code that had too many comments in it?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:42 AM, John Omernik <j...@omernik.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So I think on your worry that's an easily definable "abuse"
> condition...
> > > i.e. if we set a limit of say 1024 characters, that provides ample
> space
> > > for descriptions, but at 1kb per view, that's an allowable condition,
> > i.e.
> > > it would be hard to abuse it ... or am I missing something?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Kunal Khatua <kkha...@mapr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I this this can be very useful. The only worry is of someone abusing
> > it,
> > > > so we probably should have a limit on the size of this? Not sure else
> > it
> > > > could be exposed and consumed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kunal Khatua
> > > >
> > > > Engineering
> > > >
> > > > [MapR]<http://www.mapr.com/>
> > > >
> > > > www.mapr.com<http://www.mapr.com/>
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: John Omernik <j...@omernik.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:55:27 AM
> > > > To: user
> > > > Subject: Re: Discussion: Comments in Drill Views
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I let this idea drop (I didn't follow up and found when
> > searching
> > > > for something else...)  Any other thoughts on this idea?
> > > >
> > > > Should I open a JIRA if people think it would be handy?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is very interesting.  I love docstrings in Lisp and Python and
> > > > Javadoc
> > > > > in Java.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically this is like that, but for SQL. Very helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:48 AM, John Omernik <j...@omernik.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for discussion here. A colleague was asking me how
> to
> > > add
> > > > > > comments to the metadata of a view.  (He's new to Drill, thus the
> > > idea
> > > > of
> > > > > > not having metadata for a table is one he's warming up to).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That got me thinking... why couldn't we use Drill Views to store
> > > > > > table/field comments?  This could be a great way to help add
> > > contextual
> > > > > > information for users. Here's some current observations when I
> > issue
> > > a
> > > > > > describe view_myview
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. I get three columns ,COLUMN_NAME, DATA_TYPE, and IS_NULLABLE
> > > > > > 2. Even thought the underlying parquet table has types, the view
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > > pass the types for the underlying parquet files through.  (The
> type
> > > is
> > > > > ANY)
> > > > > > 3. The data for the view is all just a json file that could be
> > easily
> > > > > > extended.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, a few things would be a nice to have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Table comments.  when I issue a describe table, if the view
> has
> > a
> > > > > > "Description" field, then having that print out as a description
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > whole view would be nice.  This is harder, I think because it's
> not
> > > > just
> > > > > > extending the view information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Column comments:  A text field that could be added to the
> view,
> > > and
> > > > > just
> > > > > > print out another column with description.  This would be very
> > > helpful.
> > > > > > While Drill being schemaless is awesome, the ability to add
> > > information
> > > > > to
> > > > > > known data, is huge.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Ability to to use the types from the Parquet files (without
> > > manually
> > > > > > specifying each type).  If we could provide an option to View
> > > creation
> > > > to
> > > > > > attempt to infer type, that would be handy. I realize that folks
> > are
> > > > > using
> > > > > > the LIMIT 0 to get metadata, but describe could be done well too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Ability, using ANSI Sql to update the view column descriptions
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > description for the view itself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5. I believe Avro has the ability to add this information to the
> > > files,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > if the data exists outside of views (such as in AVRO files)
> should
> > we
> > > > > > present it to the user in describe table events as well?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curious if folks think this would be valuable, how much work an
> > > > addition
> > > > > > like this would be to Drill, and other thoughts in general.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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