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ah, sure ;-) thanks Edson,

but it seems that my rule is even not what I want...

actually I would need something like:
  $r : Relation()
  forall $a : Attribute( relation == $r ) {
      not InclusionDependency ( r1 == $r, a1 != $a )
  }

I know that cascading is not possible. However, I want to fetch all
Relations $r for which the further constraints hold.

Is this possible with drools?
thanks,
Andy

Edson Tirelli wrote:
>   Andreas,
> 
>   "Not" conditional element means "Not exists"... so just do:
> 
> not InclusionDependency ( r1 == $r, a1 != $a )
> 
>   []s
>   Edson
> 
> 
> Andreas Langegger wrote:
> 
> thank you Mark.
> 
> But how can I then negate the 3rd condition?
> This would mean drools cannot handle a logical forall with field
> constraints by negating applying De Morgan.
> 
> How can I say, there must not be any InclusionDependency object with r1
> == $r and a1 != $a?
> 
> like "! exists ( InclusionDependency ( r1 == $r, a1 != $a ) )"
> 
> thanks,
> Andy
> 
> ps: sorry for the second post
> 
> 
> Mark Proctor wrote:
>  
> 
>>>> You can use bound variables in an 'exists', you can't put an 'exists'
>>>> inside of  a 'not'. 'exists' and 'not' can only take Fact patterns as
>>>> their children.
>>>> Andreas Langegger wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the docs say: the not yet implemented "Existential quantifiers [...] is
>>>> supported with 'not' and 'exists' conditional elements."
>>>>
>>>> Hence, I tried to formulate a rule like that:
>>>>
>>>> when
>>>>    $r : Relation()
>>>>    $a : Attribute( relation == $r )
>>>>    not ( exists ( InclusionDependency ( r1 == $r, a1 != $a ) ) )
>>>> then ...
>>>>
>>>> this is equiv to "forall ( InclusionDependency ( r1 == $r, a1 == $a ) )"
>>>>
>>>> However, Drools doesn't allow to use BOUND VAR CONSTRAINTS together with
>>>> EXISTS, right? Can anybody help me out?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>   
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